Russian Army/Ground Forces Discussion and Updates

Feanor

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A new cool-looking 8x8 platform for different kinds of air-defence systems.
Also amphibious, so you can say its the perfect replacement for systems like the 9K33 Osa.

Except the replacement for the Osa is the Tor and it's land forces variant is tracked. There is a wheeled Tor but so far it's been export only.
 

Feanor

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An accident took place at Kapustin Yar, with a Konkurs ATGM hitting the side of a T-90A tank in training, due to mistaken target ID. The tank took damage but no penetration occurred.

 

ngatimozart

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An accident took place at Kapustin Yar, with a Konkurs ATGM hitting the side of a T-90A tank in training, due to mistaken target ID. The tank took damage but no penetration occurred.

Well that would've made the inside of the tank ring like a bell. I suspect that any chances of future promotion for the AT missile crew and their battery commander have just gone up in flames.
 

Feanor

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Well that would've made the inside of the tank ring like a bell. I suspect that any chances of future promotion for the AT missile crew and their battery commander have just gone up in flames.
It was mounted on a BMP-2, so no battery. Vehicle commander, platoon commander, company and possibly btln commander, are in hot water most likely.
 

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A batch of artillery videos from various MD. Please note Russian artillery regiments and brigades also include an anti-tank btln, a leftover from the days when anti-tank artillery (guns) was grouped with regular artillery. The 4th video shows the super-heavies, 2S4s and 2S7s. The Russian military had 1 btln of each left as a special separate unit, just in case, but in recent years they've upgraded to having two heavy artillery brigades, one in East MD and one in West MD. It's likely that each brigade only has two arty btlns, 1 2S4 and 1 2S7, but with added artillery recon and UAV elements. Note the UAV footage at the end for BDA. It's a hallmark of Russian airforce and arty operations in Syria.

 

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So a number of contracts were signed for the ground forces recently.

First off is another batch of T-80BVMs, possible a contract for 62 more. It's likely we will see a total of 200+ of the type over the next 3 years (keep in mind ~70 have already been delivered). Second off is a maintenance and upgrade contract for the BRM-1Ks that are still in service. Numbers are unclear, but the type currently has no replacement. The BRM-3K is a dated prototype, and it doesn't look like we'll see an updated version any time soon.


A better photo of the BMP-1AM from Army-2020.


A new artillery computer has been inducted, the Planshet-A.


A photo of the model for the Marine IFV surfaced at Army-2020 as well. The status of the program is unclear. Some sources indicate that it's not being funded at all (by the state).


A next generation BMPT is planned on the T-14 chassis. This is a very questionable project. As is the BMPT has no place in Russian ORBAT. Given what it carries, in my opinion, there's only one viable place to stick it. Replace the ATGM carriers in Russian anti-tank btlns in Motor-Rifle units with BMPTs. But this would require increasing the ATGM load from 4 missiles to at least 8 (4 on each side). They could even do a Tunguska-like layout and put in 12 missiles. 30mm is also pretty small for an auto-cannon these days. Given the giant MBT chassis, ideally, they should put in two 57mm guns, one S-60 derivative, high-velocity, firing AP mainly, for dealing with current and future light armor targets (or even the side armor of most MBTs), the other the LShO-57 for lobbing 57mm HE-FRAG over low cover and into windows. As is having a whole arty-btln of dedicated ATGMs carriers is overkill, and this would allow the robust anti-tank capability to be retained while adding additional fire-support capabilities, and making the BMPT concept at least somewhat relevant. But of course this is just my pipe-dream. As it stands, the conversations still wander circles around reinforcing MBT btlns with platoons or companies of dedicated fire-support vehicles on MBT chassis.


124 upgraded BMP-2s are planned for delivery over the next 2 years. This is a modest number of 60+ per year. However the source is fuzzy on the specifications. This will obviously be the Berezhok upgrade, but possibly with the additional armor as well (up until now they've just been upgrading the turret).


Photos of the information booklets on the Floks and Malva SP arty pieces from Army-2020. The fact that the Malva was even produced raises serious questions about the future of the Coalistiya program, especially the wheeled version.


A special version of the Pantsyr is being prepared for ground-forces air defense brigades to accompany the S-300V4 in a manner similar to the VKS PVO brigades. A tracked version is being considered, and it will be the new Panstyr-SM, not the current S1.


A gigantic overview of the entire Russian tank forces. If I have time, emphasis on the "if", I will endeavor to translated the post in its entirety. Credit of course goes to the original blogger for this spectacular piece of work.


A photo has surfaced, allegedly a recent one, of the T-14 assembly taking place at UVZ. You can partially see the turret without it's light-armor covering. Whether this indicates progress in the program is up for debate.

 
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