Indonesia: 'green water navy'

[Ananda]

The ocean going research vessel, I suspect will replace the early vessels from Baruna Jaya research vessels. They are also build in France, alltough by CMN instead of Piriou. Still Piriou actually the one that have more exposures on research vessels (Ocean going and Coastal). Thus the choices understandable, as it is not first time being done.

We don't know yet the detail, the contract for KRI Canopus also build by Abeking-Rasmussen but they then sub contract the hull to local shipyard as part of Tech Transfer requairement. Besides outsourcing the hull to cheaper costs shipyard in Batam also reduce the costs from main supplier.

 

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Photo from Keris FB shown one of the Van Speijk KRI Abdul Halim Perdanakusuma preparing to leave Netherlands to Indonesia in 1990, after hand over from Koninklijke Marine to TNI-AL. However I put this to shown what TNI-AL official designation on this ship.

TNI-AL call it PKR (Guided Missile Destroyer Escort). So TNI-AL actualy until SIGMA PKR 105, still officialy not calling them as Frigate, but Destroyer Escort. Only recently until acquisition of PPA and FMP they are officialy call them Frigate and not DE. Thus PKR is not new term only to those SIGMA 10514 Light Frigate. It is actually TNI-AL official designation from frigate class vessels.

Similar thing with JMSDF, until Abukuma they still call this particular vessels class as DE. Only after Mogami introduction they call it back Frigate. Guess term of DE still officialy used at least by 2 Navy in Asia. Don't know any other navy that still call their Frigate as Destroyer Escort.

 

[Ananda]

Japan defense minister Koizumi back to Jakarta again. Now asside talking to his Defense counterpart, he also got discussion time with Prabowo.

Like I said before, now what's important for Indonesia is the partner that can provide new (second hand) ready to use interim assets, and provide affordable financing for new assets.

 

[Ananda]

小泉防衛相、インドネシア大統領を表敬訪問 – 旅行業界・航空業界 最新情報 − 航空新聞社

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the field of maritime security, they agreed to begin exploring new possibilities for cooperation, including the sharing of sensitive military information, such as maritime situations, mutual use of ports, and supply and repair cooperation. They also confirmed that they have begun discussions toward the concrete transfer of "Asagiri" class destroyers and other vessels under the new defense equipment transfer system. They agreed to cooperate toward realizing comprehensive cooperation, including education and training, maintenance and repair, and operations.

No additional information but more on confirmation the program moving forward. Koizumi clearly move under his Bos blessing, now his counterpart bring him to meet Prabowo to get his official backing.

Still not clear yet what other vessels that going to be transfered. However what seems clear thar Asagiri fall into 'grant scheme' catagory. While the others being speculate fall from 'discount' sale to new procurement.

There's one speculation that I heard on matter of Submarine. Indonesia PAL will handle Scorpene Evo while Republikorp Palindo with DRASS DGK. Thus to reach the target number some of Submarine need to be interim plus new order from foreign yards. Japan seems keen to provide this with interim Oyashio as interim until new build from Japan yards (base on their current specs) can be operational within a decade more. Well that's the speculation anyway.

 

[Ananda]

PT PAL expects contract for third and fourth Red White frigates in 2026

PT PAL expects a procurement contract for Indonesia's third and fourth Red White frigates to be signed in 2026, the company's CEO Kaharuddin Djenod told Janes in a...

www.janes.com

The FMP second batch (#3 & #4) seems going to be contracted within this year according to PAL CEO. They will use same number of VLS but with different capabilities. Will this means the VLS is development of current batch MIDLAS or could it be Sylver just like in PPA ?

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

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Japan defense minister Koizumi back to Jakarta again. Now asside talking to his Defense counterpart, he also got discussion time with Prabowo.

Like I said before, now what's important for Indonesia is the partner that can provide new (second hand) ready to use interim assets, and provide affordable financing for new assets.

Looking to the upper photo, Japan isn't planning to offer Indonesia an Asagiri Class destroyer, but an Asahi or Mikasa class pre-dreadnought battle ship. Positive point: these ships do not have gas turbine propulsion. Negative point, they have 25 Belleville boilers on board.

 

[Ananda]

Indonesia eyes missile integration for follow-on Scorpene submarines

Indonesia's prospective third and fourth Scorpene submarines could be delivered with torpedo-tube-launched missile capability fully integrated from the outset, supported...

www.janes.com

PAL CEO seems talk several issue with Janes. After talking on 3rd and 4th FMP, he is also talking on 3th and 4th Scorpene Evo. He also added that the 3th and 4th Scorpene Evo will be fitted from construction with SSM capabilities, while the first 2 needed additional adjustment as not design from begining on SSM capabilities.

4 FMP, 4 Scorpene and rumours of 4 PPA. What if 4 Asagiri being given as Grant but with ASROC Box replace by 32 VLS (Midlas or Sylver) and VL MICA replace Sea Sparow launchers ? PLAN do modified their ex Russia Destroyers, could TNI-AL do similar thing ?

 

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Fincantieri (@Fincantieri) on X

We are proud to announce the signing of a Memorandum of Understanding with REPUBLIKORP, Indonesia’s largest privately owned defense industrial holding company, through its subsidiary PT Republik Palindo Internasional (RPAL), establishing a strategic partnership between the two...

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Fincantieri agreement with Republik Palindo International (RPAL) shipyard to build multi-role naval shipbuilding. Basically making RPAL as Fincantieri as part of JV in Indonesia.

What they are building ? Could perhaps from Garibaldi upgrade, 3&4th PPA and FX-30 Light Frigate/Corvette. That's at least the talk and rumours being circated so far.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Fincantieri (@Fincantieri) on X

We are proud to announce the signing of a Memorandum of Understanding with REPUBLIKORP, Indonesia’s largest privately owned defense industrial holding company, through its subsidiary PT Republik Palindo Internasional (RPAL), establishing a strategic partnership between the two...

x.com

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Fincantieri agreement with Republik Palindo International (RPAL) shipyard to build multi-role naval shipbuilding. Basically making RPAL as Fincantieri as part of JV in Indonesia.

What they are building ? Could perhaps from Garibaldi upgrade, 3&4th PPA and FX-30 Light Frigate/Corvette. That's at least the talk and rumours being circated so far.

Oh no... not another class of 105-113 meter frigates, after SIGMA 10514 and MILGEM II Istanbul Class....
Lets keep it with the Garibaldi upgrade or 3rd and 4th PPA.

And then we also have the new OPV-98 Raja Haji Fisabililillah class of corvettes, just add 7 meters, and then we have also a light frigate.

 

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no... not another class of 105-113 meter frigates, after SIGMA 10514 and MILGEM II Istanbul Class....

Those class of Light Frigates now more classified as Corvettes. That's why personally I do not see them as Frigate just like PPA and FMP. With Asagiri increasingly pototential coming. TNI-AL in paper can reach the target of 12 large Frigate with 4 FMP, 4 PPA, and 4 Asagiri. How they are going to modify Asagiri remain in question, just like what is the scope of Garibaldi modification.

FX-30 is Fincantieri effort to get back in to National Corvette (Kornas) program. Before in early 2000, they use modified Commandante design. Now they offer FX-30. In the end whether using OPV98, SIGMA 10514, FX-30, MILGEM, or Bung Hatta design (this will be on smaller end), corvettes/light frigates will be the back bone of TNI-AL. I expect more of this class coming.

 

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FCx30 is a variant of the Al Zubarah class corvettes Fincantieri built for Qatar.

Fincantieri’s FCx30: A Sea-Proven Corvette Designed to Evolve - Naval News

 

[Ananda]

Fincantieri agreement with Republik Palindo International (RPAL) shipyard to build multi-role naval shipbuilding. Basically making RPAL as Fincantieri as part of JV in Indonesia.

There're rumours that potential job this RPAL got from Fincantieri are upgrading ex Garibaldi and upgrading PPA to full config. Thus by sense all modification still done by Fincantieri, but only it its JV yard in Indonesia.

Gadjah Mada dan Panglima Soedirman Diusulkan Jadi Nama Kapal Induk Indonesia

Sosok Gadjah Mada hingga Panglima Besar Jenderal Soedirman diusulkan menjadi nama kapal induk Indonesia yang didatangkan dari Italia.

nasional.kompas.com

Navy Chief talk about time line of Garibaldi begin sail to Indonesia at 10th of July. I suspect it will sail on minimum armed option, or potentially unarmed condition. Stay in that situation up to TNI 5th of Oct parade, and later on move to shipyard (potentially this RPAL) for modification.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Put some screenshoot from PAL Video, shown the progress of Philipine LPD.

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Also Shiplift in front of Submarine facility. This shiplift is 100m length and able to lift up to 3000 ton. Thus it is aim to handle submarine of Scorpene Evo that's up to 2800 ton and 75m class.

I just found this on the Facebook account of Keris, so the launch of the first LPD of the second batch for the Philippine Navy is expected for end this month.
KERIS reborn

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Fincantieri and REPUBLIKORP Establish Strategic Partnership for Multi-role Naval Shipbuilding in Indonesia - Naval News

At the Eurosatory Fincantieri and REPUBLIKORP announced the signing of a MoU establishing a strategic partnership between the two groups.

www.navalnews.com

Naval News articke on Republikorp and Fincantieri JV at RPAL.

The envisaged joint venture will support the development of solid domestic production capabilities, enabling the delivery of a range of platforms, including high-value LPDs/LHDs, multi-role frigates and corvettes for high-end naval deterrence, offshore patrol vessels for Exclusive Economic Zone enforcement, fast attack crafts, and submarines.

Basically what Fincantieri offer is practically build another PAL in Batam Palindo facilities. Just like PAL already opening submarine project with NG for Scorpene Evo, RPAL also want to open submarine project with Fincantieri. Fincantieri already offering U212NFS, will this then being offer now with localisation.

In the end whatever new build going to be, it will take time and more budget allocation. Thus interim assets will need to be acquired. It will be second hand most probably on grant scheme, and going to get budget for modification. Still it is much better then continue operating asset from 60's or 70's to wait new build assets coming. Because budget realities can make to assets coming 10-20 years waiting period.

Potential assets interim whether Asagiri's or Type 053H3's will be strip out of most armament, and will come mostly like OPV's. Need more localisation for modification and new armaments. However it is still better then continue operating Van Speijks.

 

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Photo from Enthusiast FB on Republikorp booth. This group also busy in Eurosatory getting another co-op licensing deals.

REPUBLIKORP

REPUBLIKORP drives the future of defense through technological innovation, international cooperation, and the comprehensive development of tailor-made, military-grade systems. We adapt to complex security missions and evolving challenges, delivering advanced solutions to protect our national...

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They sign USV agreement with Milanon Group from French for building USV under Republik Palindo Shipyard.

Asside on that this group also acquired more local MIC companies to be part of their group.



This time Respati, a local company that specialise with RWCS.

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Local enthusiats by id Omdhil play around on potential upgrade or modification of Asagiri.



Well I don't think it will use Turkish systems, I believe Japan still want their systems to be include on any potential upgrade.However I also speculate before on Sea Sparrow at aft being replace by VL MICA launcer box, just like they done on Bung Tomo class.

As ASROC launchers being replace by 16-32 VLS cells, I also speculate can be done. Just base on the available spaces. Either Midlas or Sylver VLS, but then if TNI-AL want to maintain ASROC, then it can be trickier to find VLS that vam launch them asside Mk-41. I don't see TNI want to bargain on that direction..

 

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Indonesia elige el DGK: Italia vuelve a exportar el futuro de los submarinos

Sitio de la Comunidad Submarinista Latinoamericana.

www.elsnorkel.com

This latin america submarine online media claim that DRASS already sign effective contract with Indonesia for 2 of their DGK midget submarine. No confirmation from either DRASS or Palindo (which before being talked as DRASS partner for production). If this is true then it is also reduce contract from 6 previously believe to be procured/contracted.

 

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https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2026/06/indonesias-first-two-scorpene-evolved-will-have-missile-launch-capability/

Seems now Naval News contributor want to rebuke the information that Jane's circulate few days ago.

Indonesia eyes missile integration for follow-on Scorpene submarines

Indonesia's prospective third and fourth Scorpene submarines could be delivered with torpedo-tube-launched missile capability fully integrated from the outset, supported...

www.janes.com

Naval News claim their source within NG and MBDA disagree with Jane's article that claim the first two Scorpene NG that Indonesia procure and builld with PAL has no capacity from begining to launch missile (Exocet SM39). In fact what PAL CEO means that in next batch (Submarine #3&4), he expect PAL involve more on missile system integration.

This in my opinion means Submarine #1&2 eventough have final assembly at PAL, but more systems are being prepares by NG to be assemble in PAL. This is means PAL expect their portion of integtation for 2nd batch will higher then 1st batch. Which is make sense as it is part of learning curve.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Indonesia elige el DGK: Italia vuelve a exportar el futuro de los submarinos

Sitio de la Comunidad Submarinista Latinoamericana.

www.elsnorkel.com

This latin america submarine online media claim that DRASS already sign effective contract with Indonesia for 2 of their DGK midget submarine. No confirmation from either DRASS or Palindo (which before being talked as DRASS partner for production). If this is true then it is also reduce contract from 6 previously believe to be procured/contracted.

Last month it was indeed still 6 pieces.

https://www.facebook.com/100057361363043/posts/1489867876268577

Perhaps first a contract for just two because of lack of funds for 6 at once, and at a later stage another contract for the other four.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2026/06/indonesias-first-two-scorpene-evolved-will-have-missile-launch-capability/

Seems now Naval News contributor want to rebuke the information that Jane's circulate few days ago.

Indonesia eyes missile integration for follow-on Scorpene submarines

Indonesia's prospective third and fourth Scorpene submarines could be delivered with torpedo-tube-launched missile capability fully integrated from the outset, supported...

www.janes.com

Naval News claim their source within NG and MBDA disagree with Jane's article that claim the first two Scorpene NG that Indonesia procure and builld with PAL has no capacity from begining to launch missile (Exocet SM39). In fact what PAL CEO means that in next batch (Submarine #3&4), he expect PAL involve more on missile system integration.

This in my opinion means Submarine #1&2 eventough have final assembly at PAL, but more systems are being prepares by NG to be assemble in PAL. This is means PAL expect their portion of integtation for 2nd batch will higher then 1st batch. Which is make sense as it is part of learning curve.

It will be a waste if Indonesia orders such capable, advanced and modern submarines with such a pricetag, but without the capability to launch SM39 Exocets.

Personally i don't see the need for second hands "interim submarines", we now have 1 Type 209/1300 and 3 Type 209/1400. The Type 209/1300 will be maybe retired after the arrival of the 2 Scorpènes, but also at least 2 DRASS DGKs will come.

It's better to safe the limited budget for four more DGKs (or two more Scorpènes).