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John Fedup

The Bunker Group
This article confirms that the SSN Connecticut can be repaired and will operate without any restrictions. Work is hopefully to start early 2023. Interesting comment about the entire sonar doom resting somewhere at the bottom of the SCS. I assume the USN doesn’t think it offers any useful info for the PLAN as no recovery has been mentioned in the article. Perhaps this is classified.

 

John Fedup

The Bunker Group
The modified combining gear is to be installed on the Freedom class LCS…the ones that are supposedly going to be retired. I guess the gear contractor doesn’t have to be overly concerned about the durability of their modified gear. LCS, the gift that keeps on giving! Should be renamed the CF class.

 

ngatimozart

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The modified combining gear is to be installed on the Freedom class LCS…the ones that are supposedly going to be retired. I guess the gear contractor doesn’t have to be overly concerned about the durability of their modified gear. LCS, the gift that keeps on giving! Should be renamed the CF class.

Once they get that integrated, they can sell them to the RCN :p
 

ngatimozart

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Verified Defense Pro
The USN wants to decommission 39 warships in FY23. The list includes 5 CGs and 9 LCS, but Congress will provide pushback.

The Navy plans to deactivate the 22 Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruisers over the next five years, which would include Vicksburg, USNI News reported. Already, the Navy recevied permissioned to decommission USS Monterey (CG-61), USS Hué City (CG-66), USS Anzio (CG-68), USS Vella Gulf (CG-72) and USS Port Royal (CG-73) in Fiscal Year 2022. The Navy decommissioned Vella Gulf — the first of ships — Aug. 4, USNI News reported.

The list is as follows:

ShipsDecomission DateDisposition
USNS Bob Hope (T-AKR-300)10/31/2022Transfer to MARAD
USNS Fisher (T-AKR-301)10/31/2022Transfer to MARAD
USNS Walter S. Diehl (T-AO-193)10/31/2022Dismantle
USNS Shugart (T-AKR-193)01/31/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS Yano (T-AKR-295)01/31/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS Brittin (T-AKR-297)01/31/2023Transfer to MARAD
USS Chicago (SSN-721)02/08/2023Recycle
USS Key West (SSN-722)2/28/2023Recycle
USS San Jacinto (CG-56)01/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Lake Champlain (CG-57)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Bunker Hill (CG-52)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Mobile Bay (CG-53)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Vicksburg (CG-69)06/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Fort Worth (LCS-3)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Milwaukee (LCS-5)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Detroit (LCS-7)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Little Rock (LCS-9)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Sioux City (LCS-11)06/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Witchita (LCS-13)06/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Billings (LCS-15)06/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Indianapolis (LCS-17)09/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS St. Louis (LCS-19)09/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Germantown (LSD-42)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Gunston Hall (LSD-44)09/29/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Tortuga (LSD-46)03/27/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Ashland (LSD-48)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USNS Montford Point (T-ESD-1)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USNS John Glenn (T-ESD-2)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Hurricane (PC-3)02/28/2023Foreign Military Sale
USS Monsoon (PC-4)03/21/2023Foreign Military Sale
USS Sirocco (PC-6)03/07/2023Foreign Military Sale
USS Chinhook (PC-9)03/14/2023Foreign Military Sale
USS Thunderbolt (PC-12)02/21/2023Foreign Military Sale
USNS Gordon (T-AKR-296)03/31/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS Gilliland (T-AKR-298)03/31/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS Sgt. Matej Kocak (T-AK-3005)04/30/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS Maj. Stephen W. Pless (T-AK-3007)04/30/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS John Lenthall (T-AO-189)07/31/2023OSIR
USNS PFC Eugene A. Obregon (T-AK-3006)07/31/2023Transfer to MARAD

https://news.usni.org/2022/06/17/hasc-chairmans-mark-says-navy-can-shed-9-littoral-combat-ships-saves-4-amphibs
 

Mark_Evans

Member
The USN wants to decommission 39 warships in FY23. The list includes 5 CGs and 9 LCS, but Congress will provide pushback.

The Navy plans to deactivate the 22 Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruisers over the next five years, which would include Vicksburg, USNI News reported. Already, the Navy recevied permissioned to decommission USS Monterey (CG-61), USS Hué City (CG-66), USS Anzio (CG-68), USS Vella Gulf (CG-72) and USS Port Royal (CG-73) in Fiscal Year 2022. The Navy decommissioned Vella Gulf — the first of ships — Aug. 4, USNI News reported.

The list is as follows:

ShipsDecomission DateDisposition
USNS Bob Hope (T-AKR-300)10/31/2022Transfer to MARAD
USNS Fisher (T-AKR-301)10/31/2022Transfer to MARAD
USNS Walter S. Diehl (T-AO-193)10/31/2022Dismantle
USNS Shugart (T-AKR-193)01/31/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS Yano (T-AKR-295)01/31/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS Brittin (T-AKR-297)01/31/2023Transfer to MARAD
USS Chicago (SSN-721)02/08/2023Recycle
USS Key West (SSN-722)2/28/2023Recycle
USS San Jacinto (CG-56)01/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Lake Champlain (CG-57)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Bunker Hill (CG-52)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Mobile Bay (CG-53)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Vicksburg (CG-69)06/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Fort Worth (LCS-3)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Milwaukee (LCS-5)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Detroit (LCS-7)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Little Rock (LCS-9)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Sioux City (LCS-11)06/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Witchita (LCS-13)06/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Billings (LCS-15)06/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Indianapolis (LCS-17)09/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS St. Louis (LCS-19)09/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Germantown (LSD-42)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Gunston Hall (LSD-44)09/29/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Tortuga (LSD-46)03/27/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Ashland (LSD-48)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USNS Montford Point (T-ESD-1)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USNS John Glenn (T-ESD-2)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Hurricane (PC-3)02/28/2023Foreign Military Sale
USS Monsoon (PC-4)03/21/2023Foreign Military Sale
USS Sirocco (PC-6)03/07/2023Foreign Military Sale
USS Chinhook (PC-9)03/14/2023Foreign Military Sale
USS Thunderbolt (PC-12)02/21/2023Foreign Military Sale
USNS Gordon (T-AKR-296)03/31/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS Gilliland (T-AKR-298)03/31/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS Sgt. Matej Kocak (T-AK-3005)04/30/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS Maj. Stephen W. Pless (T-AK-3007)04/30/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS John Lenthall (T-AO-189)07/31/2023OSIR
USNS PFC Eugene A. Obregon (T-AK-3006)07/31/2023Transfer to MARAD

HASC Chairman’s Mark Says Navy Can Shed 9 Littoral Combat Ships, Saves 4 Amphibs - USNI News
Are these CG's able to be retained as a fixed IBM defence unit at strategic ports?
 

oldsig127

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
The USN wants to decommission 39 warships in FY23. The list includes 5 CGs and 9 LCS, but Congress will provide pushback.

The Navy plans to deactivate the 22 Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruisers over the next five years, which would include Vicksburg, USNI News reported. Already, the Navy recevied permissioned to decommission USS Monterey (CG-61), USS Hué City (CG-66), USS Anzio (CG-68), USS Vella Gulf (CG-72) and USS Port Royal (CG-73) in Fiscal Year 2022. The Navy decommissioned Vella Gulf — the first of ships — Aug. 4, USNI News reported.

The list is as follows:

ShipsDecomission DateDisposition
USNS Bob Hope (T-AKR-300)10/31/2022Transfer to MARAD
USNS Fisher (T-AKR-301)10/31/2022Transfer to MARAD
USNS Walter S. Diehl (T-AO-193)10/31/2022Dismantle
USNS Shugart (T-AKR-193)01/31/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS Yano (T-AKR-295)01/31/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS Brittin (T-AKR-297)01/31/2023Transfer to MARAD
USS Chicago (SSN-721)02/08/2023Recycle
USS Key West (SSN-722)2/28/2023Recycle
USS San Jacinto (CG-56)01/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Lake Champlain (CG-57)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Bunker Hill (CG-52)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Mobile Bay (CG-53)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Vicksburg (CG-69)06/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Fort Worth (LCS-3)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Milwaukee (LCS-5)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Detroit (LCS-7)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Little Rock (LCS-9)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Sioux City (LCS-11)06/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Witchita (LCS-13)06/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Billings (LCS-15)06/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Indianapolis (LCS-17)09/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS St. Louis (LCS-19)09/30/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Germantown (LSD-42)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Gunston Hall (LSD-44)09/29/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Tortuga (LSD-46)03/27/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Ashland (LSD-48)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USNS Montford Point (T-ESD-1)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USNS John Glenn (T-ESD-2)03/31/2023Legislative Consideration
USS Hurricane (PC-3)02/28/2023Foreign Military Sale
USS Monsoon (PC-4)03/21/2023Foreign Military Sale
USS Sirocco (PC-6)03/07/2023Foreign Military Sale
USS Chinhook (PC-9)03/14/2023Foreign Military Sale
USS Thunderbolt (PC-12)02/21/2023Foreign Military Sale
USNS Gordon (T-AKR-296)03/31/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS Gilliland (T-AKR-298)03/31/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS Sgt. Matej Kocak (T-AK-3005)04/30/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS Maj. Stephen W. Pless (T-AK-3007)04/30/2023Transfer to MARAD
USNS John Lenthall (T-AO-189)07/31/2023OSIR
USNS PFC Eugene A. Obregon (T-AK-3006)07/31/2023Transfer to MARAD

HASC Chairman’s Mark Says Navy Can Shed 9 Littoral Combat Ships, Saves 4 Amphibs - USNI News
First reported here mid/late March, only the names of the chosen ships are new. May be worth member's taking a look back to stop another rehash.

oldsig
 

Mark_Evans

Member
Will that be an issue for the USN which already has a problem recruiting enough bodies?

oldsig
They might find it easier as it is effectively AEGIS Ashore in the harbor. No long trips and able to go home after your shift or stay onboard. Crew would be reduced as well.
 

oldsig127

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
They might find it easier as it is effectively AEGIS Ashore in the harbor. No long trips and able to go home after your shift or stay onboard. Crew would be reduced as well.
True. But then who would choose to stay in a career in the USN when they have no idea whether they'll be away for months or crewing a rusting hulk at home. Maybe there's a case for training reservists. Or Army!
 

StingrayOZ

Super Moderator
Staff member
They might find it easier as it is effectively AEGIS Ashore in the harbor. No long trips and able to go home after your shift or stay onboard. Crew would be reduced as well.
No one wants to see active ships sink in harbor. AFAIK these ships are well and truly broken and I believe there is concern that the others won't even make it the 5 years.
One was leaking fuel into the ocean.

There was significant push back to decommissioning them, but they are in pretty terrible condition. The USN said people may die if they continue to operate them.
Rather, with the cruisers not contributing much to operations, not being reliable or safe and eating into readiness funding for other ships, Gilday argued it’s an easy decision to ditch these ships today.
Basically the US should considered the entire class on life support and effectively already out of the fight. There was talk that maybe they can get ~5-7 out of the modernization and that they might be able to make the 5 year mark. If they didn't develop any other new problems.
 

spoz

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
They have a it of a PR problem with the pollies, though; they have a program to life extend the CGs and LSD, with one of each (Vicksburg and Tortuga) close to completion, the CG at a cost of about USD 200 million, and both those ships are proposed for effectively immediate disposal. Naturally enough, Congress is not particularly happy with a proposal to throw that money down the toilet.
 

ngatimozart

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Staff member
Verified Defense Pro
They have a it of a PR problem with the pollies, though; they have a program to life extend the CGs and LSD, with one of each (Vicksburg and Tortuga) close to completion, the CG at a cost of about USD 200 million, and both those ships are proposed for effectively immediate disposal. Naturally enough, Congress is not particularly happy with a proposal to throw that money down the toilet.
Lots of pork barrelling by Congress critters. It was Congress who insisted on the upgrades in the first place.
 

John Fedup

The Bunker Group
The CVN Ford is ready for deployment. It has has been a long haul to reach this point, primarily due to all the new technology. The next three coming up should reach FOC much faster.

 

John Fedup

The Bunker Group
The GAO reports that not all is well with Orca XLUUV and blames the USN for not verifying that Boeing could actually manufacture the Orca. Given all of Boeing’s mis-steps of late, the USN really should have been more diligent wrt Boeing performance.

 
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