They'll Always Be Kids, Proud to be Mom (P&G)

[wing fan]

Sorry, I just like being able to do pretty much whatever, as far as my parents are concerned. Like my first reaction if my parents expressedly forbade something, would be to go and do it.

I would be :gun if I did that to my parents. Same with my brother and sister. I guess i got the short end of the stick being the youngest. > I don't like it. It is very boring. And no, i am not spoiled like a lot of youngest's these days. I am actually really really hard on myself. i force myself to do a lot of stuff i don't want to do, like walk across high bridges i am terrified of, and eventually go in an airplane. So, yeah, i do most of what my parents tell me to do. I can't help it when i crash the motorcycle though, it just happens! :smooth

Laters!

- wing fan

 

[wing fan]

I have two daughters of my own about your age, I hope they continue to feel the same way about boys as you do, right now they do not have a choice and they know it, daddy would show a bad attitude to all males that would even have the guts to ask them out.

Tell your girls that i said "Dad knows what's best for you, girls. Trust me, my dad/brother do the same, and i am still OK with it. You won't be a lonely, single girl your whole life either, don't worry. :smooth If you love him, you'll trust him. As i do my family."

Hope that makes things go smooth if they aren't already.

Laters!

- wing fan

 

[Feanor]

So it's impossible to love someone but not trust them?

 

[Waylander]

Coming from a society where this form of rigid control is not very common I can't help but think that children should try to do their own mistakes from time to time. It's part of the learning process.
The same applies to boys meeting girls. For sure one shouldn't start affairs at the age of 12 but with 16 looming at the horizon boys and girls should be allowed to get their own love live.

Not that I understand this american dating culture anyway... ;-)

Interestingly a family from germany just got political asyl in the US because in germany homeschooling is not allowed and the local government forced their children to go to a normal public school.

 

[wing fan]

So it's impossible to love someone but not trust them?

In my opinion, yes, because, if you think the way i do, and you love someone, but you don't trust them, how do you know they won't, let's say, cheat on you? I guess I am just a weird thinker. I like to think stuff through before i do one single thing. Thus the reason I play Soduko. Think, then act, unless it is a life or death situation, then do whatever you think would save you. if you even think at that time.

So the answer to you question would be, in my opinion, yes.

Laters!

- WF

p.s. go team USA hockey!

 

[wing fan]

Coming from a society where this form of rigid control is not very common I can't help but think that children should try to do their own mistakes from time to time. It's part of the learning process.
The same applies to boys meeting girls. For sure one shouldn't start affairs at the age of 12 but with 16 looming at the horizon boys and girls should be allowed to get their own love live.

Not that I understand this american dating culture anyway... ;-)

Interestingly a family from germany just got political asyl in the US because in germany homeschooling is not allowed and the local government forced their children to go to a normal public school.

That is a sad story. I wished for a few years that i went to regular schools, but now that my friends are half way through regular highschool, they say it sucks, and wish they could be homeschooled. So i am very blessed and very greatful that i don't go to regular schools. I would :gun myself if i had so much homework, and had to be at school for 5-8 hours a day!

Laters!

- wf

 

[Waylander]

Just imagine you have to work 8+ hours a day after school... ;-)

IMHO public schools as well as Kindergartens and even institutions for younger children do alot for socialising a kid as well as for preparing it for the life after school.

 

[Feanor]

In my opinion, yes, because, if you think the way i do, and you love someone, but you don't trust them, how do you know they won't, let's say, cheat on you? I guess I am just a weird thinker. I like to think stuff through before i do one single thing. Thus the reason I play Soduko. Think, then act, unless it is a life or death situation, then do whatever you think would save you. if you even think at that time.

So the answer to you question would be, in my opinion, yes.

I don't see the contradiction. So if you love somebody, you're 100% sure they won't cheat on you? What if you love somebody, but they don't love you? Do you still trust them? What if they're not even in a relationship with you? What then? It wouldn't even be cheating.

 

[wing fan]

I don't see the contradiction. So if you love somebody, you're 100% sure they won't cheat on you? What if you love somebody, but they don't love you? Do you still trust them? What if they're not even in a relationship with you? What then? It wouldn't even be cheating.

I was just using cheating as an example, but you should be 100% sure they won't cheat on you. Because, think of it, if you are dating someone, and you are only 65% sure, they might go out and do that. (then you dump them, with lots of fowl words!:argue) So why date them in the first place, unless you are totally sure. (please don't use the "but you love them" excuse, it doesn't work on me) If you love someone who doesn't love you, you get over yourself and find someone else, because obviously God has someone else planned for you. And no, you wouldn't trust them because they don't love you. You can trust someone without loving them, because i have a friend that i completely trust 99%.(don't talk to her every day, so it's only 99) For me, it takes a really long time for someone to earn my trust, until they become my friend, then i trust them a little more quick, but i still have that one little doubt about most people. And sometimes i don't need it, but a lot of times it saves me from :flame my friends. I am a little iffy on who i trust, because the last time i put all my trust in someone, I felt like sh*t, because i thought they were my friend, but they were just mooching off of me, and i can't believe i didn't see it. I wanted to :smash my head in after that. Anyway, if you love someone and don't know if they love you or not, but you are friends with them, you can put trust towards them, but not 100%, because you don't know if they love you. So you hang out with them and then find out. But if they don't and they're still your friend, you can trust them to a certain amount. But if they do love you, you can trust them a little more than you did when they were just your friend. If one of your friends loves you, but you don't love them (Kinda like my situation Right NOW!!!!! AAAAAH!!!!!) you can still trust them, even maybe a little more than a friend, because they love you and since they love you, they ecspecially don't want to upset, or do anything to hurt you.

So you have to be very careful who you hand your trust out to, because if you give it away like free candy, it could go down like a flaming balloon. I hope this makes a lot of sense to you, because this is the way i think, and my family, at that matter.

C-Ya Laters!

- wf

 

[eckherl]

Good for you! Go dad! What do you daughters think about that? I have been raised in a family where dating is not an option. And i am a-okay with that!

Laters!

- wing fan

I think they have understanding and respect on the reasons why, participation in after school events either thru school or community matched with excellant school grade averages. This will assist in getting them lined up for college. Not that I do not want them having fun in their youth, I just do not want it to totally consume them like some American kids.

 

[eckherl]

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[eckherl]

Coming from a society where this form of rigid control is not very common I can't help but think that children should try to do their own mistakes from time to time. It's part of the learning process.
The same applies to boys meeting girls. For sure one shouldn't start affairs at the age of 12 but with 16 looming at the horizon boys and girls should be allowed to get their own love live.

Not that I understand this american dating culture anyway... ;-)

Interestingly a family from germany just got political asyl in the US because in germany homeschooling is not allowed and the local government forced their children to go to a normal public school.

At 16 years of age then I will loosen my grip just a little. In this country it is totally amazing on what a 12 and 13 girl has to go thru due to peer pressure in school, its enough to scare the dickens out of fathers like me.

 

[Feanor]

I was just using cheating as an example, but you should be 100% sure they won't cheat on you. Because, think of it, if you are dating someone, and you are only 65% sure, they might go out and do that. (then you dump them, with lots of fowl words!:argue) So why date them in the first place, unless you are totally sure. (please don't use the "but you love them" excuse, it doesn't work on me) If you love someone who doesn't love you, you get over yourself and find someone else, because obviously God has someone else planned for you. And no, you wouldn't trust them because they don't love you.

Interesting. I never saw trust as a precondition for love.

You can trust someone without loving them, because i have a friend that i completely trust 99%.(don't talk to her every day, so it's only 99) For me, it takes a really long time for someone to earn my trust, until they become my friend, then i trust them a little more quick, but i still have that one little doubt about most people. And sometimes i don't need it, but a lot of times it saves me from :flame my friends. I am a little iffy on who i trust, because the last time i put all my trust in someone, I felt like sh*t, because i thought they were my friend, but they were just mooching off of me, and i can't believe i didn't see it. I wanted to :smash my head in after that. Anyway, if you love someone and don't know if they love you or not, but you are friends with them, you can put trust towards them, but not 100%, because you don't know if they love you. So you hang out with them and then find out. But if they don't and they're still your friend, you can trust them to a certain amount. But if they do love you, you can trust them a little more than you did when they were just your friend. If one of your friends loves you, but you don't love them (Kinda like my situation Right NOW!!!!! AAAAAH!!!!!) you can still trust them, even maybe a little more than a friend, because they love you and since they love you, they ecspecially don't want to upset, or do anything to hurt you.

But the point is even though you love somebody, it doesn't mean you can completely trust them. That's the principal distinction in my opinion.

 

[wing fan]

I think they have understanding and respect on the reasons why, participation in after school events either thru school or community matched with excellant school grade averages. This will assist in getting them lined up for college. Not that I do not want them having fun in their youth, I just do not want it to totally consume them like some American kids.

I totally understand. I don't want to end up like some of my friends, where, when you get a boyfriend, nothing else seems to matter to them. not even their families. or friends.(the reason they used to be my friend, but are no longer) Most people just let their kids run wild and let them date and hang with whoever they want. It is completely rediculous! But i stay home most the time and don't have the peer preassure to make me even think about doing that stuff, so i guess i got lucky. And i don't even like boys (or girls!) so, i wouldn't even do it if there was preasure. I get annoyed when my friends talk about their boy or girl friends, so all the more reason not to. To much drama for me.

c-ya laters!

- wf

 

[wing fan]

But the point is even though you love somebody, it doesn't mean you can completely trust them.

Yes, that is what i am trying to get to. The only person you can trust 100% is God. I can't even trust myself that much because i have made some stupid mistakes before, and will in the future. maybe. :hitwall I even hold grudges on myself occasionally. But, i only have 1 regret so far this year, and that is making friends with a kid i didn't know loved me. Nice kid, but kinda weird being his friend. Don't know how i'll get out of this one. Oh well.

So, don't throw trust around like free candy, or you will be really ticked off at yourself. As i am, sometimes.

c-ya laters!

- wf

 

[wing fan]

But the point is even though you love somebody, it doesn't mean you can completely trust them.

Yes, that is what i am trying to get to. The only person you can trust 100% is God. I can't even trust myself that much because i have made some stupid mistakes before, and will in the future. maybe. :hitwall I even hold grudges on myself occasionally. But, i only have 1 regret so far this year, and that is making friends with a kid i didn't know loved me. Nice kid, but kinda weird being his friend. Don't know how i'll get out of this one. Oh well.

So, don't throw trust around like free candy, or you will be really ticked off at yourself. As i am, sometimes.

c-ya laters!

- wf

 

[wing fan]

Just imagine you have to work 8+ hours a day after school... ;-)

IMHO public schools as well as Kindergartens and even institutions for younger children do alot for socialising a kid as well as for preparing it for the life after school.

Let me take a random guess; that is what you do? Or are you just saying that? I don't have a job, so i don't have to worry about being fired or any of that stuff.

c-ya laters!

- wf

 

[Waylander]

For sure, like most other people do after they finished school/college...
And if you really want to join the armed forces you should be aware that normal civilian work times are going to look like luxury to you.
The armed forces as well as many civilian jobs are also places were a good feeling for social interaction is worth alot.
Preparing children for their future life is something normal schools IMO do much better than homeschooling ever could.

I bet my view of this also stems from the different culture I come from.

 

[wing fan]

For sure, like most other people do after they finished school/college...
And if you really want to join the armed forces you should be aware that normal civilian work times are going to look like luxury to you.
The armed forces as well as many civilian jobs are also places were a good feeling for social interaction is worth alot.
Preparing children for their future life is something normal schools IMO do much better than homeschooling ever could.

I bet my view of this also stems from the different culture I come from.

I am pretty sure i am already prepared for a job, because i have already had one. I used to work at a motorcycle shop, but i quit because i didn't like the people there. And i am not a people person, if you can believe that. I don't like to be around people i don't know and don't like, so, i am not a big "social interaction" type of person. I think my mom and dad have prepared me enough for my future life, but if they haven't, my friend has 'cause he went to regular schools, and has a job, and all of that stuff, and hates it. so i know it is suck being an adult.

- wf

 

[Feanor]

I am pretty sure i am already prepared for a job, because i have already had one. I used to work at a motorcycle shop, but i quit because i didn't like the people there. And i am not a people person, if you can believe that. I don't like to be around people i don't know and don't like, so, i am not a big "social interaction" type of person. I think my mom and dad have prepared me enough for my future life, but if they haven't, my friend has 'cause he went to regular schools, and has a job, and all of that stuff, and hates it. so i know it is suck being an adult.

- wf

You're gonna have a hard time in the army. Esp. boot. You're going to be around tons of people you've never seen before, and you're going to have to learn to work together with them.