Royal New Zealand Navy Discussions and Updates

Xthenaki

Active Member
At the moment NZ govt needs to leave Australia out of the frigate replacement program and look to either Japan or South Korea for their ANZAC replacements. Australia is fully committed to their own replacement needs and will most likely encounter :"teething problems" as they introduce and expand their shipbuilding infrastructure and associated programs. We look to Australia say mid 2045 onwards if it suits both parties. I think we may miss the boat on the arrowhead 140 option as European nation needs will probably take up any available slots.
 

swerve

Super Moderator
Perhaps Poland could build some. The Poles are building three for themselves, with two under construction so far, & they seem to be building them from the bottom up. They may be roped in to build for other countries, though, e.g. Denmark (though I think the Danes would like to do as much as possible of the fitting-out themselves). Romania may have capacity to build modules.

Depends on how many you want, & when, I think.
 

Rob c

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
I was watching an add for the AH140 the other day and it talked of building large numbers. They appeared to be talking of up to 30 to 50, were and how I don't know, but some one has a plan.
 

swerve

Super Moderator
There's one fitting out, six building, & three named but not yet started building. Total of 10 committed to so far, plus three (or maybe five eventually) for Denmark said to be likely.

On top of that, Sweden's said to be interested in four - but may buy FDI; it's been noised around that Poland may be interested in up to five more; it's been suggested that Indonesia may want more than the two building; Chile's been named as a potential customer (to be customised to Chile's requirements & built locally), replacing assorted secondhand frigates; New Zealand's been proposed as a possible customer, to replace ANZACs. Oh, it goes on & on. You can see where talk of 30 plus comes from.
 

spoz

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
Indonesia hopes to launch their first later this year. Another buy looks unlikely; they tend to buy twos of things; PPAs most recently
 

Catalina

Active Member
Wouldn't a better plan be to acquire second hand Australian Mogamis? They would be cheaper than new build, but still be young vessels. Already run in, fully compatible with the Aussie ships and it would allow the Aussies to extend their domestic production run, lowering their average vessel cost and keeping their industry employed.
Gidday Gidday John,

Yes this is an excellent idea.

New Zealand taking on second hand Australian gear would further integrate our Defence Forces and could solve so many problems...
 

OldTex

Well-Known Member
Gidday Gidday John,

Yes this is an excellent idea.

New Zealand taking on second hand Australian gear would further integrate our Defence Forces and could solve so many problems...
Except that the RAN probably won't have any "second hand" Evolved Mogami GPFs to help NZ out of their problem. Also given the history with the ANZAC build NZ would not be seen as being 100% reliable
 
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