TLDM is a branch of MAF so what's to be confused.afterall it's going to be the main asset of the planned JTF (PAB).hrm... weird.
So, the vessel will paint TLDM or ATM?
Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) update
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Light patrol crafts apparently in the 30-metre long range...I have no idea what we can provide to them.
Any comment?
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I could be mistaken, but I believe this thread is about the Royal Malaysian Navy, not the Indian or Pakistani navies. Other than that, I would imagine the two navies make use of whatever type rifle their armies use.
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We still use our 23 years old warships. we barely have enough ships in our inventory and the navy are begging for more. what's left is either obsolete or transfered to our APMM. we can't afford to provide anything to Iraq.
I would like to see an upgrade to our Kasturis. Those Bofors ASW rocket launcher we can afford without and should be replace with SAM like crotale or RAM to give the ship better Anti-missile protection. There's also room behind to put the second SAM launcher, but i suggest we put a miniUAV launcher to provide the ship OTH visibility and targeting. in place of the ASW rocket, we can put 2 x B515 triple 12.75 inch torpedo launcher on both side of the ship.
I would like to see an upgrade to our Kasturis. Those Bofors ASW rocket launcher we can afford without and should be replace with SAM like crotale or RAM to give the ship better Anti-missile protection. There's also room behind to put the second SAM launcher, but i suggest we put a miniUAV launcher to provide the ship OTH visibility and targeting. in place of the ASW rocket, we can put 2 x B515 triple 12.75 inch torpedo launcher on both side of the ship.
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I concur with awang se to upgrade the kasturi class to have a capable sam. i do prefer the RAM instead of the crotale. Is it possible tu upgrade the kasturis to use the seawolf? that would be better in terms of logistics and maintenance as the lekius are already using them. Both class of frigates already have a common SSM which is the Exocet, MM38 for kasturi and MM40 for the lekius.
if RMN does that, that'll provide them with 4 capable light frigates - 2 lekius and 2 kasturis. Then plus the 4 laksamana corvettes, we'll have quite a capable force. In fact instead of purchasing another 2 lekiu class, divert the funds for the kasturi upgrading plus the kedah class upgrade to missile corvette standards. then we'll have 4 light FFG, and 10 Corvettes.
while we are on the topic of the kedah class opv's, I read that it can be outfitted with the RAM and the exocet fairly quickly as it has wiring for those systems. thing is, i did not see any upgrade options for ASW systems and armement. AFAIK, the class has no ASW systems and armament at the moment. Is it true? and also what happens if the upgarding excersice is performed? will there be no module for ASW equiptmen?
if RMN does that, that'll provide them with 4 capable light frigates - 2 lekius and 2 kasturis. Then plus the 4 laksamana corvettes, we'll have quite a capable force. In fact instead of purchasing another 2 lekiu class, divert the funds for the kasturi upgrading plus the kedah class upgrade to missile corvette standards. then we'll have 4 light FFG, and 10 Corvettes.
while we are on the topic of the kedah class opv's, I read that it can be outfitted with the RAM and the exocet fairly quickly as it has wiring for those systems. thing is, i did not see any upgrade options for ASW systems and armement. AFAIK, the class has no ASW systems and armament at the moment. Is it true? and also what happens if the upgarding excersice is performed? will there be no module for ASW equiptmen?
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ASW doesn't seem like a high priority for these ships. However, according to Janes Fighting Ships, 2004/05 the ships are able to embark a Super Lynx helicopter equipped with ASW torpedoes and provision has been made to fit sonar if required at a later date.
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Having more corvettes would not take care of FFG needs. We should continue with the purchase of Batch II. What I gather from a closed forum is that the Kasturi-class SLEP program would include combat system, radar, add SAM (MBDA Tetral?), removal of Giat 100mm and add platform management system. No decision is being made on what to do with ASRL yet.
Actually, the money is paid by the "United Forces", but in order to prevent money goes from "right hand to left hand" they chose a third party which happens to be Malaysia. So, obsolete 2nd hand vessel is not in their consider.
And since Italy will be providing the "big toy", I guess, compare to the size of "35 sailors", ours would be a "10sailor" petrol craft. From what I found recently, PCS do have the tech to build such a boat/craft as they already provide our coast guard few of them. While for the support vessel, "support" can also mean less requirement, our shipbuilders may have that capacity too?
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I've read thru the thread and see from those who have posted comments, that, like most navies around the globe, there is a "concern" about lack of new vessels & the speed at which increasing naval force size is taking place.
As a discussion point & Hypothetically speaking...(as i don't ever see this scenario developing)
...If / When the RBN take delivery of their 3 Nakhodah Class OPV's & they decided that it would be a good idea to lease or sell one, to help the RMN build a "partner" force (being neighbouring countries), or so that the RMN could use it to "quickly advance" the 9th Plan.
Would you see this action as...
#A - A good thing. (neighbours helping each other to grow & develop in experience & stature, sharing & utilising new technologies / common equipment).
#B - A bad thing. (distracting from current doctrine, by upsetting the delicate & controlled chain of build, development & finance programmes, at a time when the RMN needs to grow at a balanced pace).
#C - Something else...?
What are your thoughts ??
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As a discussion point & Hypothetically speaking...(as i don't ever see this scenario developing)
...If / When the RBN take delivery of their 3 Nakhodah Class OPV's & they decided that it would be a good idea to lease or sell one, to help the RMN build a "partner" force (being neighbouring countries), or so that the RMN could use it to "quickly advance" the 9th Plan.
Would you see this action as...
#A - A good thing. (neighbours helping each other to grow & develop in experience & stature, sharing & utilising new technologies / common equipment).
#B - A bad thing. (distracting from current doctrine, by upsetting the delicate & controlled chain of build, development & finance programmes, at a time when the RMN needs to grow at a balanced pace).
#C - Something else...?
What are your thoughts ??
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Well IMO, a sell is not quite possible, a lease might have little more chance. As from the scenario, those ships are just some lost attraction toys of the sultan. They rather to let it rot in england than to do further work making use of it.
Even we did manage convince them to sail their ships, to involve in a matter of co-training would be better. Join forces make things complicate and eat up resources that are rather too much for us...
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