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New Zealand Army

Discussion in 'Army & Security Forces' started by Whiskyjack, Feb 14, 2006.

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  1. RegR

    RegR Active Member

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    I remember the pic of him with the SAS, he seemed like a no BS taking lads lad, can't remember what type of overall poli he was though. Ahh those times have gone as I could not imagine either of the current prospectives doing something like that by choice.
     
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    The Bailey bridge belongs to Downers/NZTA, NZ Army dosen't hold that many parts in stock any more as the bailey is seen as a thirld tier assest requiring to many Logistical capability to move, protect, and install. You are correct about the raft in Wairoa during Bola Assault pioneers from 2/1 were training up to provide relief to the engineers.

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    I was just about to ask who it belonged too, thought it might have been stashed away in some remote forgotten corner of defence somewhere
     
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    The brits are selling their fleet of panther CLVs as they have found them not suitable for what they want to use them for after all. With a few mods to latest standards could be a way to replace the armoured pinz at a good price and in good numbers as even these would be better than our current fleet of light armour.

    They seem to be selling off a few interesting fleets from defence stocks ie MAN HXs up for grabs still so perhaps a chance to get more trucks as there seems to be no updates on the garrison fleet. We are still running large numbers of unimogs and 2228s that need replacing.
     
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    Definitely worth investigating. @RegR do you have a link for their disposals?
     
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    Was surprised because there was some relatively new bits of kit on there along with the usual older gear as per. Big army problems I guess but could ultimately mean some bargains to be had depending on how long they want to hold onto surplus gear. I guess I am just more used to our usual tactic of holding onto kit until it is well and truely poked whereas other militaries see logic in routinely upgrading and selling gear earlier rather than later to get at least some kind of return.

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    Thanks Reg. Would say all the good stuff will be gone by now.
     
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    Be like trade me, first in first serve or someone swoops in last minute with $1 more haha.
     
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    What an opportunity to acquire some armour at a favourable rate.

    The Warthog would to me be a desired capability that would allow a small fleet to be acquired as a relatively cheap way to trial an amphibious armoured carrier for JTAF operations from Canterbury. Their extreme mobility would also afford HADR operations both domestically and internationally. Not sure how many are available but two dozen would allow for the movement of the enhanced company capacity of Canterbury plus provide for specialist units to support the fleet and provide a spares pool.

    The Panther would be a great replacement for the armoured pinzs and would be air mobile like the warthog in a Hercules.

    If these are in reasonable condition and available in numbers why not try to save some money.
     
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    That's interesting, the 1 RNZIR soldier is sporting a Multicam uniform similar to British forces.
     
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    SAS have a multi cam they use but I think they will just be using the brits uniform to blend in, not unheard of for small deployments like this.
     
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    The soldier in the images (it is the same NZ soldier, Lance Corporal Jed Maskill, from 1 RNZIR, in each) is not wearing a British MTP pattern uniform, but one of standard MultiCam. I would assume it is from the same stock the NZSOF draws from. From even a short distance it would be indistinguishable from the Brit MTP
     
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    There has been little discussion on the JATF as of late and little if anything on the force structure of the embarked force on Canterbury.

    With the recent point of British armour being for sale what could realistically be accomplished if a purchase was made of Warthogs?

    Canterbury has the ability to transport 250 troops for a short time. With an ability to transport 16 troops I would consider twelve basic troop transports, two command, two ambulance, two mortar carrier and one fitter variants to be the minimum.

    To those with experience would this work? Not sure how the RM or the Dutch deploy their amphibious armour but I would think they would be good examples to emulate.
     
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    The two colour palettes are pretty much the same, but the patterns are quite distinct. There are a lot of traces of the old British DMP in their MTP.
     
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    Nova - I'm pretty sure the Warthog is no longer amphibious following its up-armouring. I have no idea if the armour can be removed, but given that it was modified as a UOR rush-job, I'd doubt it. So therefore of little use to NZ Army (except perhaps as a better vehicle to exercise with than the LAV3 around the Waiouru exercise area in the winter). Best to pass on the ex-UK vehicles I think.

    I would agree with you in principle that the option of some kind of tracked amphibious carrier (mainly for logistics) would be very useful to carry on the Canterbury, particularly if you had to cross a coral reef during a landing operation (plenty of those in the South Pacific). NZ Army should have an alternative to their wheeled transport for areas with difficult terrain (snowy, boggy, sandy etc). The Bronco from Singapore or the BVS-10 from Sweden would be ideal.
     
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    Defence Technology Review - Defence Technology Review

    Interesting snippet on p6 of the May issue of Defence Technology Review.

    Australia has ordered a new supressor for their infantry rifle, and the supplier is from New Zealand.

    Oceania Defence Titanium Suppressors|Targets|Bullets

    It is Oceania Defence, which appears to be a small Tauranga-based company producing shooting accessories through some high-tech variant of 3D printing. There is no indication of the size of the order, but I'm pretty sure it will stretch this outfit to the max. Good on them for winning an order in the face of competition from much bigger international suppliers.
     
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    Great effort from the New Zealand army at the Australian army skills at arms competition they placed forth out of 20 teams from 19 nations.

    Apparently Indonesia and Malaysia have full time teams that train all year round our guys trained for 3-4 weeks and our snipers were using .308 against other teams with .338 and still placed 3rd.

    We had 4 people place in top top 20 of 200 competitors.

    Great to see the NZDF doing so well obviously some high quality training happening.

    NZ Army - Army News
     
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    New Zealand selects EOD robots from Roboteam - UV - Unmanned Vehicles - Shephard Media

    Gordon Arthur of Shephard Media highlights a new NZDF contract. Most of his article is behind the paywall, but the Israeli media have some coverage. Incidentally, it appears the company has a large manufacturing facility in the USA, probably because they list multiple US government agencies in their client list.

    Tel Aviv company to supply robots to New Zealand Defense Force

    About Us | Roboteam

    Is this another example of NZ choosing a different path to Australia?
     
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