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New Zealand Army

Discussion in 'Army & Security Forces' started by Whiskyjack, Feb 14, 2006.

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  1. ngatimozart

    ngatimozart Super Moderator Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

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    Unfortunately you are right there Rob.
    Yep and as in 1939 and especially 1941 / 42 them chooks will come home to roost really painfully.
     
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    Inside the NZSAS: creating the elite soldier

    I was reading this article and in the NZSAS and in 4 years 31 people made the regiment out of 243 that tried out which is a failure rate of 87%.

    I remember watching the doco from about 15 years ago where only 5 made it out of 52 that was one selection cycle which is a failure rate of 90% and you find most tier 1 special ops have a failure rate of 90% or more.

    I can't imagine the NZSAS have lowered standards they are ruthless in regards to that and pass rates can differ for each group selected to try out for the regiment they will all vary in quality of personnel.

    I was wondering are people going into NZSAS selection better prepared these days than in the past is the military helping people to prepare physically before they go in.?
     
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    I think that people are going to the selection better prepared now than maybe say 20 - 30 years ago.
     
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    I thought that must be the case because the NZSAS are ruthless with their standards they know where they need to be and don't compromise.
     
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    ngatimozart Super Moderator Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

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    Yep and I never tried when i was in the mob, because I wouldn't have survived the first morning let alone the first day :D My old man and uncles drilled into me before I signed up as a teenager: "Don't volunteer for anything" :D:D
     
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    Linton Army base is finally getting it's perimeter fence replaced with something fit for purpose as opposed to fit for keeping the guard sheep (and a few goats and cows) off the road. You can compare the quality of the current fence in this Google street view picture - Manawatu Prison on the left, Linton Camp on the right: Google Maps

    Construction of Linton Military Camp fence set to start in March

     
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    Once under construction take pictures and produce a brochure. Use wall instead of fence in the description and you have an exportable product to you know where.:D:D
     
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    Not funny. If one were to be exposed to some of the sh*tshow I have been which parts of the US political scene has become, and the level of discourse where not just differences of opinion are put on exhibition both also what I would describe as bigotry and xenophobia, one likely not find the situation amusing either.

    [RANT] It has (with people I know personally) gotten to the point where if one has a different opinion, discussion of the reasons for the difference in opinion is not just no longer possible, but a bad idea because at least some will automatically assume that the reason for the difference in opinion is that one is ignorant and/or being led by mainstream propaganda and if only one researched "the facts" themselves...[/RANT]

    We now return you back to your regular discussion of the NZ Army.
     
  9. ngatimozart

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    You do realise that those guard sheep are carnivorous and man eaters? The goats and cows also have bad attitudes and are personally trained by the camp RSM.
     
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    Off Topic, but I acknowledge ngatimozart's profile picture and sadly report that Australian News is reporting Windsor Davies has passed peacefully aged 88.

    Oh dear, how sad!
     
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    While googling some NZ defense-related terms, I stumbled across this lengthy video from an American firearms channel that appears to give an explanation for the firing pin issues with the new NZ rifle.

    To be honest, I didn't have the patience to watch the whole thing but others may find it interesting.

    I don't know anything about the reviewer and his credibility, but he certainly does seem to love LMT products.



    This appeas to be another MARS review from the same guy.
     
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    Shepperd Media is reporting a buy of MAN wreckers. Unfortunately I cant link to the story .If anyone can provide details I would be most appreciative.

    I assume they will be this type as already trialed by the NZ Army.
     
  13. ngatimozart

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    First I heard about it too. Article is paywalled but this is link to it New Zealand orders MAN wreckers - MLF - Military Logistics - Shephard Media and I don't have access.
     
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    Oops. Accidental post.
     
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    New radios for the Army from Harris.

    Mobile Tactical Network Boost for the Army

    And from another Forum it appears that three MAN wreckers have been ordered. Type not detailed. If anyone can add to this please fill in the blanks. Could these be replacements for the five FMTV 1098s which are 20 years old?
     
  17. ngatimozart

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    I saw that and the person who posted that also posts here, but has not posted any source to back up the claim. Because they most likely cost less than (IIRC $5 million) they don't need Cabinet approval and CDF can sign off on them. @MrConservative will correct me if I am wrong.
     
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    www.empl.at

    Going back to the original link posted above (great find, by the way), it was put on Youtube by EMPL Fahrzeugwerk - evidently an Austrian engineering firm that fits out specialist trucks. The small description underneath the video reads



    This video, also from EMPL, provides some detail on the Bison recovery vehles in German service, immediately prior to being deployed to Afghanistan. Interestingly, these are clearly built on on a Mercedes base. Presumably the 'Bison' designation refers to the recovery fit-out, which can evidently be built onto different truck chassis.

    Bison Recovery Vehicle | Military-Today.com

    This on-line description of the Bison also has it built on a Mercedes chassis, but it seems reasonable to assume the capabilities will be similar.
     
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    I heard the bison trialed was found to be too large which I thought strange since it would have the same footprint as the 8×8 EPLS variants and seemingly any future fleets would no doubt increase in size and/or weight at least, be it replacement or upgrade.

    Maybe the full armoured version will be too heavy for our roads? Was an issue with the single steers under armour to remain "officially" compliant under our rules. Minor problem IMO considering armour would be for overseas missions and if needed here than NZTA would have bigger problems anyway and I'm sure any restrictions would be out the window.

    They could have been after a suitable smaller 6x6 like the current fleet, lighter 8x8 or maybe the smaller buy now of 3 points to a split buy ie 8x8/6x6, mil/civil, armoured/soft skin with another purchase to follow as I was under the impression they were looking at 6 wreckers to replace the current 5.
     
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    I asked on the NZ Army facebook page and they sent me the answer, 3 units.