The Russian-Ukrainian War Thread

[KipPotapych]

First of all, it is not up to me or you to decide who deserves what and decisions of any sovereign state. You answered your own statement. It is not up to you what Ukraine determines it needs to do to defend it's national sovereignty. If Ukraine feels that allowing Russia to profit in any way that allows it to prolong it's imperalist ambitions to the detriment of Ukraines very survival then they are absolutley in their right to hold an intervention.

Like I said, amazing stuff. We basically let Ukraine decide how Germany, France, Italy, Canada, -insert name-, and, furthermore, NATO conduct their own business and we have no problems with Ukraine a foreign state attacking and destroying anyone’s infrastructure as they see fit. Makes a lot of sense, of course. And par for the course.

Imagine, a country attacking multiple NATO members with no repercussions whatsoever because they are defending their sovereignty, while having a complete disregard for the sovereignty of the said members of the Alliance. And the latter is completely irrelevant too.

 

[rsemmes]

Germany and Japan were broke in 1945 , but managed to continue war production.

So...
How long before Russia goes actually broke?
How long after that can Russia manage to continue war production and keep fighting in Ukraine?
If after all that China decides to finance Russia, how long can Russia "keep in the fight"?

In short, how many years does NATO (Ukraine) has to "hold"?

 

[rsemmes]

It is not up to you what Ukraine determines it needs to do to defend it's national sovereignty.

So, it is not up to you what Russia determines it needs to do to defend it's national sovereignty or whatever high horse statement Russia decides to sell.
Correct?

 

[rsemmes]

Even the most casual reader will understand the situational moral differences between UKR and Iran.

Not the point, but yes, Iran is not sinking boats in the Caribbean.
Do you want to lead this forum to "morals", are you sure?

Why should the west support Iran a terrorist state much like Russia?

As far as I can remember, Iran was not financing the Taliban, nor the Contra.

 

[deyhere]

Ukraine is not winning the war by any margin, just look at the battle field, if things continue like this into 2023, Ukraine is done
Ukraine is not winning the war by any margin, just look at the battle field, if things continue like this into 2024, Ukraine is done
Ukraine is not winning the war by any margin, just look at the battle field, if things continue like this into 2025, Ukraine is done
Ukraine is not winning the war by any margin, just look at the battle field, if things continue like this into 2026, Ukraine is done

UKR can stop fighting and be another vassal state of RU any time it wants. They choose otherwise.

I eagerly await the tired response that many UKR have fled the conflict.

The problem is, the Russians are not stopping and i don't see any indication that they will stop any time soon. Ukrainian long range drone strikes into Russia, is hurting the Russians but not enough to halt the Russians.
Russia can do this for a long time from the looks of it and they don't seem to be in a hurry.

Lets see who starts begging for a ceasefire first.

 

[deyhere]

Use the "Preview" before you post, to help the formatting.

Thank you

 

[rsemmes]

The key is that I try and read other peoples posts, you do not, nor are you willing to try and provide proper context for the different points.

But you already know that. You could of taken the time to properly format your post in question so it could foster a proper exchange of view points, as requested, but instead....you just post nothing of consequence.

When, for example, have you recently posted anything of informational value, such as my recent posts on the strike on the Boikiy ?

You are of course free to post as you see fit. I am not a moderator. It is not my job to force you to be relevant.

By the "ad hominen" I guess you mean CSIS, right?