The Russian-Ukrainian War Thread

[Feanor]

The Izyum Salient.

Battle damage in Izyum.

Славянск Z |Артёмовск|Краматорск

⚡Изюм

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Russian Msta-S firing allegedly Krasnopol' guided shells.

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Russian forces crossing the Severskiy Donets river, northern Donetsk region. Note the sunken T-72B3.

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Российские военные показали кадры переправы через Северский Донец Российское Минобороны опубликовало кадры, снятые на переправе через реку Северский Донецк в Харьковской области. Несмотря на интенсивный артиллерийский огонь противника, бойцы инженерных войск навели понтонный мост, чем...

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Foreign weapons captured in Izyum.

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Изюмский район Харьковской области. Апрель 2022. Российские военные осваивают новые образцы вооружения. «Запад должен дать Украине любое оружие», – заявил глава МИД Украины Д.Кулеба в интервью Би-би-си. Подписчики нашего телеграм-канала присоединяются к словам украинского министра, так как еще...

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Russian forces in Izyum.

Комсомольская правда: KP.RU

Фоторепортаж военкора КП Александра Коца из города Изюм, где сейчас ведутся бои с силами ВСУ. Подробности о происходящем в городе — в материале @sashakots, скоро на kp.ru Подписаться на @truekpru

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Civilians around Izyum wearing white armbands, presumably as an identifier for Russian forces.

Kotsnews

По поводу белых ленточек. Было много язвительных комментариев, дескать, а что, нет ни одной фотографии живых гражданских с этим опознавательным знаком на рукаве? Чо вы нам, дескать, впариваете, будто мирные жители носили бинты на руках? Ну вот проехался по Изюму. Здесь то же самое. Снимал в том...

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LDNR Front.

Rebel Grad firing towards Popasnaya.

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Работа реактивной артиллерии Народной милиции ЛНР по позициям ВСУ под Попасной.

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BMP-2 in action near Severodonetsk, presumably a rebel vehicle.

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Russian T-80BV supporting rebel forces near Severodonetsk.

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Военный Осведомитель

Танки Т-80БВ ВС РФ приданные бойцам Народной милиции ЛНР в боях под Северодонецком. Фото: Алексей Майшев.

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Rebel ATGM team in Novoselovka, near Gorlovka, takes out a Ukrainian mortar.

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Rebel artillery firing on Ukrainian positions near Mar'inka. You can see Ukrainian infantry moving around in the trenches.

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IZ.RU

Работа "Градов" под Марьинкой — на кадрах с коптера. Видео обстрела укреплений ВСУ показал корреспондент "Известий" Валентин Трушнин. @izvestia

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DNR artillery and mortars, west of Donetsk.

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LNR artillerymen in action. Location and context unclear. The footage appears to be from two different units, one with D-30s and the other with I think Msta-B.

Военный Осведомитель

Артиллеристы Народной милиции ЛНР Фото: Виктор Антонюк

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Военный Осведомитель

Артиллеристы Народной милиции ЛНР. Фото: Виктор Антонюк

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Air defenses firing, Shahtersk, DNR area.

Dambiev

Работа ПВО ДНР по перехвату воздушной цели над городом Шахтерск Донецкой Народной Республики. 7 марта 2022 года.

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Battle damage in Rubezhnoe. Warning footage of corpses.

Русская Весна Z : спецоперация на Украине и Донбассе

☠️Страшные кадры из Рубежного: три человека погибли, не успев добежать до бомбоубежища Луганские журналисты сняли последствия удара по освобождённым кварталам города отступающих украинских оккупантов: у многоэтажного дома были обнаружены тела трёх убитых горожан. t.me/rusvesnasu

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Fires burn in Toretsk, near Gorlovka.

Славянск Z |Артёмовск|Краматорск

⚡️Дзержинск (Торецк)

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Unconfirmed info of a large explosion in Rubezhnoe, with orange-brown smoke rising.

Марочко Live

⚡️⚡️⚡️В соцсетях появилось фото якобы взрыва в Рубежном. Официального подтверждения пока нет, но цвет дыма ничего хорошего не сулит. @marochkolive

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Captured Ukrainian positions near Lisichansk. Rebel forces are now set up there.

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Russian Orlan-10 UAV shot down near Popasnaya.

Военный Осведомитель

Сбитый в районе Попасной российский БПЛА «Орлан-10».

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A destroyed BMP and T-64 near Maliy Kremenchik, north-west of Mariupol', south-west of Donetsk, on the border of Zaporozhskaya region.

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Ещё пару единиц техники из-под Малого Керменчика

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Destroyed Grad column on the road from Stepnoe to Krasnaya Polyana, not too far from Maliy Kremenchik either. Vehicles are presumably Ukrainian based on the camouflage and lack of Zs.

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Фото с дороги между Красной поляной и Степным P.S. LostArmour мы о вас помним

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A destroyed BMD, allegedly Ukrainian, near Donetsk.

Уголок Ситха

Уничтоженная украинская БМД под Донецком.

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A destroyed Kamaz truck that was carrying anti-tank weapons, presumably Ukrainian (based on the NLAW and Stugna fragments).

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Уничтоженный камаз с БК в районе Зачатовки. Из интересного - вёз nlaw'ы и стугну

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A captured Ukrainian BTR-3 in rebel hands and back in action.

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Отжатый на Славянском направлении украинский БТР. @sashakots

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LNR forces operating a captured GAZ-66.

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Russian Su-34 over Donetsk.

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Донецк. Проход Су-34 с отстрелом тепловых ловушек.

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A rare BMP-1 variant with a different gun captured by the rebels.

Оно конечно БМП, но ....

Странноватое орудие, явно длинее штатного Грома Судя по деталям камуфляжа и элементам башни трофей

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Captured Ukrainian T-64BV now in rebel service.

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Up-armored rebel BMP-1.

И еще про БМП оттуда

Тоже трофеи, но наоборот. С телеграм - канала Панцерваффли

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Russian troop trains heading to the Donbass.

Oleg Blokhin

Идущие подкрепления на Донбасс. Снято несколько дней назад, скорее всего уже прибыли.

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Ukrainian POWs in DNR hands, location and context unclear, but it might be Mariupol'.

Рядовой на проводе

✔️ "С каждым днём в ДНР всё больше украинских военнопленных. Если ещё несколько недель назад их привозили десятками, то на сегодняшний день, после полутора месяцев изнурительных боёв, их доставляют сотнями", — военкор Андрей Руденко. Кадры: RT @Soldierline

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Densely packed crowds, Kramatorsk train station, before the strike.

Военкор Котенок

Обстановка в районе железнодорожного вокзала Краматорска. Люди всеми силами пытаются выбраться из города, который укронацисты планируют превратить во "второй Мариуполь". @voenkorKotenok

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[Feanor]

Mariupol'.

BTR-82A provides cover while wounded rebel fighters are evacuated.

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Russian Marines in action together with rebel forces in Mariupol'.

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Russian 2S3 howitzer being used for direct-fire support in Mariupol'. I have to point out the insanity of this. The 2S3, for it's scary appearance, is a very lightly armored vehicle. Using it in this manner is both very risky and very irresponsible. It suggests that there might be a deficit of MBTs, or that the offensive is poorly organized and artillery is being used where it shouldn't be.

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Ukrainian fighters, possibly Azov, carrying a wounded, and retreating towards the sea port.

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⚡️ЭКСКЛЮЗИВ⚡️Бегство «азовцев» в порт Мариуполя⚡️ В распоряжении проекта @wargonzo оказалась съёмка с БПЛА, на которой можно увидеть, как отделение «Азова» (порядка 10 боевиков) убегает со своих позиций в городских кварталах Мариуполя по направлению к морскому порту. Можно также разглядеть, что...

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Russian infantry moving through Mariupol'.

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Russian T-72B3 mod'16, and BTR-82A firing, Mariupol'.

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UAV footage of combat near Azovstal'.

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⚡️ВИДЕО⚡️Бои в кварталах у порта Мариуполя⚡️ Проект @wargonzo публикует съёмку с дрона морского порта Мариуполя, а также горящих многоэтажек на подступах к нему. Видео подтверждает, что бои идут буквально в паре кварталов от от морских ворот города. Именно туда отступают разгромленные под...

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Fighting on the Taganrog Road, near Azovstal'.

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A fighting position held by Ukrainian police in Mariupol' apparently fell.

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В Мариуполе зачистили и заняли воинскую часть, в которой пыталось держать оборону сводное подразделение полиции Украины

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A sea mine floating off the coast of Mariupol'.

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06.04.2022 Мариуполь - морской порт. Морская мина в порту Мариуполя. В настоящий момент порт находится под контролем окруженных ВС Украины. @romanov_92

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Aerial footage of Azovstal', Mariupol'.

СТАВКА

❗️❗️❗️ ЭКСКЛЮЗИВ Подготовили для Вас очередную порцию фотографий из Мариуполя. Теперь с территории Азовстали. Разбираем: 1 - техника в укрытиях 2 - баррикады на въезде 3 - воронки от снарядов 4 - укреплённая огневая точка 5 - гражданские суда у стенки Спасибо за материалы, которые Вы...

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Night footage of Ukrainian Marines surrendering. Unclear if part of the same mass surrender as earlier or a separate incident.

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Ukrainian warship, the Donbas, burns in the port of Mariupol'.

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Свежее фото горящего в Мариуполе корабля управления А 500 "Донбас" проекта 304 (бывшая плавучая мастерская ПМ-9) ВМС Украины. По заявлению Народной милиции ДНР, корабль был подорван/подожжен самими украинцами

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Destroyed Ukrainian Humvees and vans, Mariupol'.

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HUMMWV, а также иная техника ВСУ в Мариуполе

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Ukrainian IMR-2M captured in Mariupol'.

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Ukrainian Kozak-2 armored car captured in Mariupol'.

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Colonelcassad

Захваченный в Мариуполе украинский бронеавтомобиль Козак.

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Captured/destroyed Ukrainian vehicles, Mariupol'.

Неофициальный Безсонов

Новые фото из Мариуполя.

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Russian troops in Mariupol', probably National Guard (based on the uniforms). There's a rare new Buran armored car visible, from GAZ.

Форпост

Продвижение союзных сил в одном из районов в Мариуполе. Из интересного новенький ГАЗ 3308 Буран. @vorposte

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Some Russia/rebel armored vehicles in Mariupol' including a Russian T-72B3 mod'16 in Mariupol' and a T-72A with K-1 tiles installed. Unclear if Russian or rebel (possible Russian 90th Tank Div).

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Russian 2S4 super-heavy mortars show up in Mariupol'.

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240-мм самоходные миномёты 2С4 «Тюльпан» прибывают в Мариуполь дабы денацифицировать неонацистов "Азова". Фото: Валентин Спринчак

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Russian forces gathering up what appear to be captured munitions, Mariupol'.

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Assorted footage, Mariupol'.

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WarJournal [Z]

Подразделения Союзных сил в Мариуполе. @warjournaltg

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Colonelcassad

Мариуполь. Сегодняшние съемки во время доставки https://t.me/boris_rozhin/39995 гуманитарного груза для местных жителей.

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МЕЖДУНАРОДНЫЙ ФАН

Мариуполь сегодня. На первом фото на горизонте виднеется Меткомбинат им Ильича. @riafan_everywhere

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Работает Горшенин!

Мариуполь, северо-западная часть города сегодня.

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ДОЛГАРЕVА

Микрорайон Восточный, Мариуполь.

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30 minutes of footage out of Mariupol'. A shockingly large number of people are still in the city. There's some conversations with locals, and detailed footage of the destroyed theater. The civilians note issues with water.

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Several comments from civilians out of Mariupol'. The first recounts a Ukrainian tank shooting randomly at houses. The rest tell typical stories of hiding in basements, and seeing the horrors.

SHOT

"Украинский танк ездил по улице и стрелял в дома. Дядька не выдержал, говорит: "Сынок, что ты делаешь?" А он говорит: "А что вы хотели?" Жители Мариуполя — об ужасах, которые творили украинские националисты.

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Civilian in Mariupol' greets the camera with a Russian/DNR flag and a St. George ribbon, the man is old. It's important to note the difference in behavior from locals towards Russian presence. In Sumy and Kiev area locals are taking up arms and joining territorial defense formations in large numbers. In the south, territorial defense played a relatively small role, but there are regular protests against Russian presence in Kherson, Energodar, and Melitopol'. They're not very large protests, but you have to factor in that many people left, and that protesting an occupying army is a frightening business under the best of circumstances, and these are not the best of circumstances. Meanwhile in villages and towns taken by the rebels, and now in Mariupol', there seems to be either a relatively neutral regard for Russian and rebel presence, or even outright friendly attitudes. It appears that even with the current war, Ukraine still has internal divisions.

Заеzжий корреспондент

Сцена на балконе в Мариуполе, снятая совершенно случайно. Вдумайтесь, что происходит. И насколько сильная предыстория. Заезжий корреспондент @korrzakadrom

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Humanitarian aid being handed out in Mariupol'.

Colonelcassad

Раздача гуманитарного груза собранного с помощью читателей канала в Мариуполе.

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Civilians in Mariupol' laments the destruction of the city and her home. The first one is sad at the failure of negotiations. The second blames America for this, and suggests that Zelenskiy spends some time in Mariupol'.

Русская Весна Z : спецоперация на Украине и Донбассе

‼️‍☠️Жители Мариуполя высказали своё отношение к нацистам и Зеленскому Мирные жители обвиняют террористов из полка "Азов" в своих бедах, а Зеленскому рекомендуют посетить Мариуполь и посмотреть собственными глазами на результаты его клоунады. "Зеленскому я пожелаю пожить здесь, посидеть тут, и...

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Civilians in Mariupol' reports Azov fighters shooting civilians including children.

Херсонский Вестник

⚡️«Азов» расстреливал детей — жители Мариуполя рассказали о зверском отношении украинских националистов к обычным гражданам⚡️

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The West.

Zhitomyr territorial defense received a Land Rover.

Dambiev

Переданный британцами фольксштурму Житомира бронированный Land Rover Defender.

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Ukrainian firefighters try to put out the flames of burning fuel storage facilities.

Colonelcassad

В Одессе продолжают тушить пожары на поврежденных хранилищах ГСМ.

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Misc.

Ukrainian anti-tank section moving around somewhere, and appears to take fire.

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Операция Z: Военкоры Русской Весны

‼️Война глазами врага: спецназ ВСУ нарвался на наших Диверсионная группа с противотанковыми средствами скрытно двигалась по лесополосе, но была обнаружена и по ней был открыт огонь. /Мужской Клуб Донбасса/ t.me/RVvoenkor

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Ukrainian towed howitzer and truck hit, location and context unclear.

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Russian UAV strike on a Ukrainian car, looks civilian, allegedly being used by Ukrainian fighters.

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ANNA NEWS

Российские ударный БПЛА уничтожает машину украинских военных ️Российский ударный беспилотник "Иноходец" уничтожил машину с боеприпасами для украинской армии. @anna_news

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Ukrainian T-64BV destroyed, location and context unclear.

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T-64BV destroyed, it's turret flung to the second story of a house. Location, context, and whose is unclear.

Военный Осведомитель

Башня Т-64БВ, улетевшая на второй этаж кирпичного дома в результате детонации боекомплекта.

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Downed Ukrainian Su-25, location and context unclear.

Милитарист

Обломки сбитого украинского штурмовика Су-25

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A knocked out KrAZ, likely Ukrainian National Guard.

Oleg Blokhin

Подбитый краз укры.

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More captured NLAWs and Stingers, location and context unclear.

WarJournal [Z]

Очередные трофеи российских военнослужащих. ВСУшники сбежали, но любезно поделились инструкцией по эксплуатации ПТРК NLAW. Вскоре «подарки» будут приданы отдельному подразделению и использованы против бывших хозяев. @warjournaltg

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WarDonbass

Тем временем, военнослужащим СпН ВС России также все равно, какое оружие изымать у сбежавших националистов наступательное или оборонительное. На фото очередная партия ПТРК NLAW и ПЗРК Stinger, захваченная на Изюмском направлении, плавно переходящем в Славянское.

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Latvian fighters arrive in Ukraine.

ZERGULIO

На Украину прибыли наемники из Латвии. Лица фиксируем для последующего опознания.

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Georgian fighters in Ukraine.

Милитарист

Грузинские наемники сформировали отдельное боевое крыло в составе батальона «Карпатская Сечь», который входит в 93-ю отдельную механизированную бригаду ВСУ «Холодний Яр» Об этом сообщил грузинский гражданин Вано Надирадзе. По его словам, в состав формирования также вошли такие лица грузинского...

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Переносной ЗРК Stinger у боевика действующего в составе ВСУ "Грузинского легиона" Автандила Сурманидзе

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Russian repair btln somewhere in or near Ukraine, working with vehicles damaged in the fighting.

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A BTR-4 captured by Russian forces near Izyum is fully repaired. Might get handed over to the rebels.

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Russian army trucks uparmored with junk, location and context unclear.

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Russian helos operating over Ukraine.

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A very rare Russian BTR-82AT, with thermals and mounts of extra armor. The extra armor is however conspicuously absent.

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Assorted footage.

Уголок Ситха

Z-Донбасс

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NATO/EU.

A Czech train with BMP-1s ans T-72Ms has been sent to Ukraine.

Милитарист

Чехия отправила на Украину эшелон с танками Т-72М1 и БМП-1

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[Feanor]

I'm about 36-48 hours behind on updating. I'll try to do another one today, if not then tomorrow. Below is a quick summary of what I didn't have time to sort in detail and post yet.

Russian and rebel forces have entered the port of Mariupol' and allegedly control most of it. Some Ukrainian forces are still there. Azovstal' is still in Ukrainian hands. Russian forces have apparently pushed further south out of Izyum, and fresh forces are seen there from the 4th Guards Tanks. They're driving T-80Us but with a different paint job, not the dirty-white snow camo, but the traditional yellow-green. Russian units have also appeared near Severodonestk-Lisichansk area to support the rebel push there. There's still no word of a Russian push north-eastward out of Zaporozhye region. Either they're stalled or the push out of Izyum isn't successful enough to warrant a second push from the other side.

The missile attack on Kramatorsk is looking less and less likely to be Russian. Ukrainian sources took up close photos of the missile, including it's series number, and it's part of a series of Tochka missiles used by Ukrainian forces in combat. Also the trajectory suggests that missile came from the south-west, an area under Ukrainian control.

 

[Aerojoe]

Is there a summary anywhere of the likely armour that may have been transferred to Ukraine so far or currently underway? There has been lots of public statements by leaders of “we are or will” by some NATO members but I’m struggling to find anything on what those media statements really mean in practice.

 

[John Fedup]

I find it hard to believe that Russian intelligence would have made such a major miscalculation. My take is that Putin actually believed some of his own propaganda and discounted what he was told.

Ukraine: Inside the spies’ attempts to stop the war

As the invasion of Ukraine loomed, Western intelligence officials decided to tell the world what they knew.

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''For decades, intelligence had normally been something to share with as few individuals as possible. No longer. The decision had been taken to make the whole world know about it.''

''This not only marked a dramatic shift in the way Western intelligence had been operating - it also meant confronting the painful legacy of the invasion of Iraq.''

''A crucial moment came in early November when CIA Director William Burns travelled to Moscow - to warn that Washington knew what was being planned. The trip was not kept secret. The first time some Russian officials were told that their country might be seriously intending to act against Ukraine was when they heard it from the director of the CIA, one official says.''

Yes, I find hard to believe the professionals weren’t aware. As a former KBG guy, astounding Putin wouldn’t accept the real world info assuming it was given to him.

 

[T.C.P]

The missile attack on Kramatorsk is looking less and less likely to be Russian. Ukrainian sources took up close photos of the missile, including it's series number, and it's part of a series of Tochka missiles used by Ukrainian forces in combat. Also the trajectory suggests that missile came from the south-west, an area under Ukrainian control.

I started having doubts about the missile being russian, the moment UA supporters started spreading that the missile had 'for the children' written on it. The Russians are bad guys for invading Ukraine sure, but they arent goofy villains out of a marvel comic.

 

[John Fedup]

If it is a Ukrainian C-F then they need to get out in front of it. From a PR perspective it is better to admit to screwing up versus hiding this and getting caught lying 1-2 weeks from now.

 

[T.C.P]

If it is a Ukrainian C-F then they need to get out in front of it. From a PR perspective it is better to admit to screwing up versus hiding this and getting caught lying 1-2 weeks from now.

On this one, I disagree with you. Ukraine has gotten away with a lot of BS claims so far. And Russia has no credibility. Even if Russia produced actual audio tapes with Ukrainian officials saying that they are the ones who F-ed up, the majority of the world(outside Russia, China, Serbia and South Asia) would not believe them.

The train attack was great negative pr for Russia. Images of dead civillians were all over social media, including social pages which are SFW, because people believed it needed to be shown. The idea that it was a Russian missile that killed the civillians has been repeated enough that its the truth no matter, even if it actually is or not. The most important audience is the Western voter base, whose govts are supplying UA's defense right now and they wont believe Russia no matter how credible their evidence. Ukraine gains very little from claiming responsibility( if this is their fault, no hard evidence so far that it is)

Is it moral for them not to clarify this mistake(if it is theirs)? No. But they are a nation being attacked, morality is the least of their concerns now. Hell, if I was a Ukrainian, I would not want my govt to admit this either. From a UA perspective, every Ukrainain casualty whether be it from direct Russian attack or accidental friendly fire is Russia's fault for invading to begin with. Why admit to something, that makes our enemies position stronger. Russia would use this admission to push their view on Bucha too.

This is just my opinion of course, but the benefits of admitting to this is not high.

 

[STURM]

An interesting well researched video. He takes an objective and analytical approach to analysing the key aspects of the war; including claims made by both sides.

His channel also includes a video on the MBT/ATGW issue. As it stands there have been lots of premature and inaccurate claims about how top attack ATGWs have rendered the MBT obsolete; without analysing all the factors at play.

 

[ngatimozart]

Things may just start to become more difficult for the Ukrainians. Putin has finally appointed an overall commander for the Ukrainian War, General Alexander Dvornikov. He was the first General in charge of the Russian forces in Syria and was the one responsible for the destruction of Aleppo.

"The move to empower him is a dangerous sign that Putin has no intention of giving up in Ukraine anytime soon but could truly try to take most, if not all, of eastern Ukraine,” said Harry Kazianis, a US military analyst from the Centre for the National Interest. ​

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“Dvornikov is a smart tactician and strategist who will use siege warfare tactics just like they were used in Syria. My fear is that Dvornikov is under orders that if he can’t take eastern Ukraine he will turn it into a giant Aleppo.”​

Russian general taking over Ukraine campaign is the man who flattened Syria’s cities (telegraph.co.uk)​

It is claimed that he is behind the Kramatorsk train station attack and TBH it does have the hallmarks of his MO. However a claim is just that, a claim and has to be treated with caution especially when made by the media Russian general behind monstrous attack on Ukrainian railway station named in reports - World News - Mirror Online

This could be a long drawn out war.

The missile attack on Kramatorsk is looking less and less likely to be Russian. Ukrainian sources took up close photos of the missile, including it's series number, and it's part of a series of Tochka missiles used by Ukrainian forces in combat. Also the trajectory suggests that missile came from the south-west, an area under Ukrainian control.

In light of the above it is possible that this could be a Rebel attack using captured Ukrainian munitions. So lets keep our minds open about this.

 

[OPSSG]

Understanding the true nature of Russian disinformation

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1512886491432701954

1. Russian disinformation is not about telling a plausible lie, but about making Western media and human rights run in circles to disprove the huge volume of lies. Russian misinformation by its embassy in Central Europe is often deliberate. The full version of the video shows the cleaning and tidying up of the city, after the Russian Army left. In the video, Ukrainian soldiers pull the bodies off the street with ropes. But there is no secret or hiding — they pulling bodies because of the risk that these bodies can be attached to Russian planted explosives.

2. Estonia has sent Ukraine 10 tonnes of electrical products to help restore overhead power lines and support the country's electricity systems. The country has also supplied Ukraine with more than €220 million worth of weapons and €12 million of humanitarian aid.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1512418044286586895

3. IIRC, Slovakia provided Ukraine with a S-300 air-defence system that has only 4 mobile launchers but this is significant. It’s a good start to force the Russians to fly at low level.

 

[koxinga]

Re the possibility of Ukrainian false flag operations

While we need to evaluate the facts for each and every accusation, I think we also have to practical and use some common sense here. The common sense is the benefits versus the cost of such an operations.

At this stage of the conflict, the opinions and positions is largely determined; another "outrageous" case, while it makes the CNN headlines, isn't going to change the direction or reduce/increase military support signficantly.

That means the effort to stage a Bucha or a Kramatorsk as claimed by Russia :

1) Isn't going to change public opinions
2) Isn't going to change military situations

Indeed, the fact that we are discussing false flag operations sort of defeats the point of one. While we can be open minded, accept the fact that there are plenty of BS from Ukraine, look at the facts from both sides, the burden of proof lies with Russia, especially those that causes civilian Ukraine casualties.

Re deliberate policy versus local decisions on Russian atrocities

Commanders are accountable for their actions. It is my opinion (based on data posted here and elsewhere) that is it a combination of the pressure/stress for getting results, and the lack of accountability from the leadership that causes violations and atrocities to happen, rather than a formal policy. War is hell. Combine that with unrelentless propaganda, poor leadership and sense that you can get away with stuff, soldiers can descent to their base instincts.

The key issue is Putin isn't really interested in holding any of his soldiers accountable. Heck, he will probably give them a medal and a promotion if they complete their objective (Syria is prime example) When you have this sort of leadership, it is a green light for abuses.

 

[T.C.P]

Re the possibility of Ukrainian false flag operations

While we need to evaluate the facts for each and every accusation, I think we also have to practical and use some common sense here. The common sense is the benefits versus the cost of such an operations.

At this stage of the conflict, the opinions and positions is largely determined; another "outrageous" case, while it makes the CNN headlines, isn't going to change the direction or reduce/increase military support signficantly.

That means the effort to stage a Bucha or a Kramatorsk as claimed by Russia :

1) Isn't going to change public opinions
2) Isn't going to change military situations

Indeed, the fact that we are discussing false flag operations sort of defeats the point of one. While we can be open minded, accept the fact that there are plenty of BS from Ukraine, look at the facts from both sides, the burden of proof lies with Russia, especially those that causes civilian Ukraine casualties.

False flag never even crossed my mind, if the Tochka was launched by Ukraine, it hitting the railway station seems more like an accidental friendly fire then false flag. The whole 'this is for the children' message on the missile makes more sense that way, it was directed at the Russians, but accidentally hit one of their own. False flag operation makes little sense, killing hundreds of your own civillians to paint Russia as a bad guy (when they do that well enough themselves) is just as cartoon villainy as a possible 'for the children' message on a missile.

Personally, I am leaning more towards the DPR/LNR guys launching it camp.

 

[Feanor]

Update.

The North.

Civilians cheer and greet troops returning from Ukraine to Kursk and Orlovskaya regions.

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Повёрнутые на Z войне

Встреча российских военных-участников спецоперации в Курской области

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Kharkov-Sumy.

Ukrainian Grad, and two other trucks, destroyed near Trostyanets.

Операция Z: Военкоры Русской Весны

Армия России уничтожила РСЗО "Град" под Тростянцем Огнем артиллерии одной очень эффективной бригады уничтожена РСЗО "Град" у Тростянца в Сумской области. ▪️Фото 1 и 2: "Урал" пытался подтолкнуть РСЗО, но не успел ▪️Фото 3 - уничтоженная машина с боеприпасами. Конец марта. t.me/RVvoenkor

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Ukrainian T-64BV abandoned in Kharkov region.

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Ukrainian troops in Kharkov. A BTR-3 leads the column, followed by trucks.

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A Russian BTR-82A driving in Kharkov region.

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Russian T-80U column in Kharkov. One has two machineguns instead of one.

Два это не один

Т-80 ВС РФ, довооруженный дополнительным турельным пулеметом.

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The Izyum Salient.

Russian Shturm-S firing near Izyum.

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Topol'skoe village has fallen as the push continues south-west out of Izyum.

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Старше Эдды

Село Топольское, юго-западнее Изюма. За него шли тяжёлые бои, в данный момент село полностью под нашим контролем, позиции ВСУ в паре километров. ВСУ пытались отбить село, но понесли тяжёлые потери и сейчас бьют по нему из РСЗО, накрывают артиллерией, также изредка проводят авианалеты...

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Ukrainian T-72B1 captured near Izyum.

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Ukrainian BTR-80 captured near Kamenka.

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Based on context I believed the earlier photo of a captured Ukrainian BTR-3 being used with Z markings came from the rebels, but apparently it's been captured by Russian forces in Kamenka, making it the second BTR that was captured there.

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Трофейный украинский БТР в Каменке @sashakots

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Russian T-80U, T-80BVM, BTR-82As, trucks and BMP-2s, crossing Donets-Severskiy. These are additional units being pushed into the Izyum salient.

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Assorted footage, Izyum salient.

Старше Эдды

Ещё немного фото из Изюма и Топольское. Трофейный украинский танк осознал свою ошибку и перешёл на сторону добра.

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Zaporozhye-Dnepropetrovsk.

Russia has used Tornado-S missiles near Dnepropetrovsk.

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[Feanor]

LDNR Front.

Rebel ATGM team takes out a truck near Gorlovka.

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LNR forces firing NLAW, allegedly in combat.

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Rebel artillery firing at Mar'inka.

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The road from Krasnaya Polyana to Novaya Mlinovka is covered in destroyed Ukrainian vehicles, and KIAs. Note this is the same area mentioned earlier, with Maliy Kremenchik and the road from Stepnoe to Krasnaya Polyana. This is south-west of Donestk, north-west of Mariupol'. I count 2 destroyed MBTs, one 2S7 Pion, one BRDM-2. Warning footage of corpses.

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LNR forces captured stocks of Ukrainian artillery shells.

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Rebel forces transporting captured NLAWs on the roof of an old Zhiguli.

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Russian T-80BVs near Severodonetsk.

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Ukrainian T-64BV on the road between Slavyansk and Artemovsk.

ANNA NEWS

Обрешеченный Т-64БВ 17-й танковой бригады ВСУ на трассе Славянск-Артемовск. @anna_news

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Russian helos over DNR area.

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LNR recon team.

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Some locals in the town of Schastye, now under LNR control, are happy to see the rebels in control. Some of them have relatives in the rebel forces.

Операция Z: Военкоры Русской Весны

‼️Трогательные кадры: Жители города Счастье встречают войска ЛНР со слезами радости на глазах – Здесь ждали Луганскую республику? – Это глупый вопрос просто, конечно же ДА!!! t.me/RVvoenkor

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A look at the trajectory and range of the Tochka-U strike on Kramatorsk. It appears that the strike came from Ukrainian-controlled territory. And a look at the series number of the missile Ш91579 (Sh91579). Fired by Ukraine during the '14-'15 campaign were missiles Sh915622, Sh91565, Sh91566, Sh915527, Sh915328. Recently fired; Sh915611, Sh915516.

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On the other side is a video of a Tochka unit on train, marked with Vs. Unlike the earlier, very grainy footage that may have been Belorussian Tochkas, this seems far likelier to be Russian. Technically the 47th Missile Bde had Tochkas as recently as 2021, though they were replaced with Iskanders since then. In principle Russia can re-activate the systems quite easily. The train was spotted in Belarus, possibly exiting Kiev region, or as part of some reserve element. This is the first reliable confirmation of Tochkas being used by Russian forces.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1509559727096803337

Mariupol'.

Tank and APC trying to suppress a sniper position. The camera man reports one WIA, one KIA, as part of this fighting.

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Russian landing ships fire navalized Grads at targets in Mariupol'.

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Russian UCAV striking target in Azovstal'.

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Aerial footage of fighting in and around Azovstal'.

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DNR 9th Rgt together with Russian Marines. You can see them using BTR-82As to evacuate civilians, likely not for safety reasons, but as just the only available wheeled vehicles this deep into the battle zone.

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Rebel 2S1 battery firing towards Mariupol'.

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DNR D-30s firing towards Ukrainian positions in Mariupol'.

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Работа Д-30 ДНР.

122мм пушки-гаубицы Д-30 ВС ДНР ведут огонь по нацистам "Ассова". Обращает внимание, что на одной Д-30 нестандартные колеса. Мариуполь, экс-Украина, 2022.

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Ukrainian vehicle getting destroyed at the Il'yich metallurgical plant.

WarJournal [Z]

Уничтожение техники ВСУ на территории ММК имени Ильича в Мариуполе. Объективный контроль осуществляет БПЛА "Иноходец". Координаты уничтоженной цели: 47.180472, 37.561001. @warjournaltg

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Rebel forces evacuating killed and wounded.

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Unconfirmed reports of a civilian ship, the Apache, trying to approach Mariupol'. It was turned around after being fired on by Russian warships. There is speculation that it was there to evacuate Azov fighters from the sea port.

«Я «Маньяк», иду к тебе»

Ночью была предпринята очередная попытка эвакуации неких важных лиц из Мариуполя. На этот раз морем. МО РФ о попытке прорыва сухогруза Апачи в Мариуполь. В 22 часа 38 минут московского времени в 30 км юго-восточнее МАРИУПОЛЯ сухогруз резко изменил курс следования и попытался прорваться…

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Ukraine's Donbas warship has sunk at the pier.

Последний причал "Донбасса"

Последний причал корабля управления Донбасс. Корабль 2 дня горел, после чего лег на грунт в порту Мариуполя. Причины пожара до сих пор неизвестны.

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Russian journalist spends some time with the rebel btln Somalia. You can see that 2S3 being prepared for use, the same one that we saw doing direct-fire earlier. They clearly have MBTs, and you can see the tank crew doing recon on foot, before rolling out in the tank to fire. Later we can see an AGS-17 being used in in-direct fire as a sort of light mortar.

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Rebel forces in overrun Ukrainian positions next to the port.

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Rebel forces enter the port.

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WarGonzo

⚡️ФОТО⚡️Вежливые люди в морском порту Мариуполя⚡️ Проект @wargonzo публикует первые фото бойцов НМ ДНР, сделанные непосредственно в мариупольском морском порту, операция по зачистке которого продолжается прямо сейчас. По нашим данным на контакт с донбасскими военными вышли экипажи сухогрузов...

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WarGonzo

⚡️СРОЧНО⚡️5-я бригада НМ ДНР почти зачистила порт Мариуполя⚡️ Прямо сейчас идет зачистка разрозненных групп противника на территории Мариупольского порта. Совсем скоро эксклюзивные детали и подробности. @wargonzo *наш проект существует на средства подписчиков, карта для помощи 4279 3806 9842 9521

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A sea mine floating off the coast of the port of Mariupol'.

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DNR Troops of the Interior, in Mariupol'. They are apparently involved in sweeping areas after the fighting is done to catch stragglers, disarm booby traps, and establish security.

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Rebel forces in Mariupol'.

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Rebel rescue workers in Mariupol'.

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Misc.

Ukrainian infantry element (possibly SOF based on equipment) comes under fire, and evacuates wounded using a tank. Location unknown.

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Russian Orion-S taking out a Ukrainian MBT, location unclear.

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Russian UCAV hitting an alleged Ukrainian munition dump.

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A Russian Orion-S was downed in Ukraine.

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Ukrainian AT-105 Saxon and Carl Gustaf captured, location and context unclear.

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Russian Su-30SM operating over Ukraine. Context unclear.

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Russian VDV column sporting a mix of BMD-4Ms and BMD-2s, BTR-Ds and MDMs. The video description implies this is recent footage, post-withdrawal from Kiev region, and that these are some of the same troops.

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Assorted footage of Russian troops.

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Allegedly fighters from the Netherlands in Ukraine.

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French fighters pose with Right Sector in L'vov region.

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NATO/EU.

Slovakia is delivering an S-300PMU btln to Ukraine.

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Dambiev

Отправка из Словакии на Украину железнодорожным транспортом дивизиона ЗРС С-300ПМУ советского производства.

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Милитарист

Словацкая ЗРС С-300ПМУ на марше в сторону Украины

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[Feanor]

In light of the above it is possible that this could be a Rebel attack using captured Ukrainian munitions. So lets keep our minds open about this.

It easily could be, there was information of something that looked like missile launches out of Shahtersk, a rebel held area, though it's in the wrong direction for this strike. I'm not sure how reliable it is to estimate the direction of the strike based on where the missile fragment fell.

 

[swerve]

...Amnesty international is not a neutral organization, it is know that it was created by the British Government foreign office and it´s banned in several non-western countries. (Amnesty International - Wikipedia )
...

Your source does not say what you say, It says it was discreetly assisted, not created. They are not the same thing at all.

Being banned in some countries could be seen as evidence that it's doing the right thing, & not being perfect does not invalidate its aims or efforts.

 

[Capt. Ironpants]

False flag never even crossed my mind, if the Tochka was launched by Ukraine, it hitting the railway station seems more like an accidental friendly fire then false flag. The whole 'this is for the children' message on the missile makes more sense that way, it was directed at the Russians, but accidentally hit one of their own. False flag operation makes little sense, killing hundreds of your own civillians to paint Russia as a bad guy (when they do that well enough themselves) is just as cartoon villainy as a possible 'for the children' message on a missile.

Personally, I am leaning more towards the DPR/LNR guys launching it camp.

I was leaning DNR somewhat, but thinking friendly fire is quite possible. Not knowing the exact positions of Russian forces in the area, I really don't know. There is also the possibility it was intercepted by defending Ukrainian forces (whoever launched it) and the debris still caused civilian casualties as in the 14 March Dontesk strike. Right now, I am on the fence. Agree on the cartoon villain thing, but it seems more and more people are willing to believe in cartoon villains.

EDIT: I worry I may not have been clear. What I mean is this. If friendly fire, it could have been launched by the Ukrainians at Russian forces in the area, and either missed its target, or, more likely, shot down by another Ukrainian unit who believed it was Russian. We know the Ukrainians have used this same missile with same warhead, and that even when shot down, debris can tragically cause considerable casualties.

 

[Jaykaro]

@Feanor hello, can you please tell why in your bulletins 95% of the channels are strictly pro-Russian telegrams? To read it that way, only Ukrainian equipment is destroyed.
(this is not a complaint).
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Regarding the investigation of the strike on Kramatorsk by serial numbers - schizophrenia, which is spreading in Z groups. ( at first they appealed to what direction the tail part fell from, but from the video from Berdyansk it became clear that the tail part is significantly twisted and it is impossible to determine the direction of impact. Now the serial numbers are taken)

Moreover, these missiles and all the serial numbers were manufactured by the Soviet Union at the Bryansk factory, and if the AFU had them, then Moscow should certainly have Soviet documents that they were transferred to the Ukrainian armament back during the Soviet era. But there is no such information. Strange again, isn't it?
There was also a launch from Russian-controlled Shakhtarsk. Everything was blamed on the work of the air defense, but again, this is a sofa opinion, where is the official investigation?
There was an explosion in Kramatorsk right after the work of the air defense system, again, strange.

The Russian Defense Ministry also points to the southwest direction of the arrival, claiming that the launch came from Ukraine-controlled Dobropillya. However, there are positions of Russian and "separatist" forces in the south-south-west direction (for example, south of Ugledar and near Velyka Novoselka) within the range of the Tochka-U missile (120 km), which means that the launch could well have taken place from there.



I also do not deny that it could have been Ukrainian-controlled forces, because a couple of days earlier, Zelensky had authorized the use of such systems for the territorial defense of Ukraine. Therefore, they could have easily used them on civilians due to inexperience or on other purpose. It should be a normal investigation, not guessing by serial numbers (Yes, and 15 numbers difference is not small, there could be different batches.)

 

[Capt. Ironpants]

Your source does not say what you say, It says it was discreetly assisted, not created. They are not the same thing at all.

Being banned in some countries could be seen as evidence that it's doing the right thing, & not being perfect does not invalidate its aims or efforts.

True. Also, the quality of Amnesty International teams and reports varies quite a bit by country and staff are mainly volunteers. In some countries, at times, its teams and reports are excellent, better than other human rights organisations. This has much to do with the way it is structured. Also, its funding is more broad based (many small donors), which is a good thing in some ways.

That said, HRW teams are also variable in quality, even though staff are mainly paid professionals. Some teams are extremely good. Where HRW concentrates its efforts and possible bias has much to do with their funding (powerful large donors). I was glad to see one of their best teams was in place when the mess in Libya started. I don't personally know that much about the team now monitoring Ukraine, but it looks to be pretty good so far.