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Russian Navy Discussions and Updates

Discussion in 'Navy & Maritime' started by Spacearrow99, Sep 2, 2008.

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  1. Spacearrow99

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    Russia increased naval activity in distant lands


    The Russian Navy has all the resources to control the situation in every part of the World Ocean, the Navy Commander Adm. Vladimir Korolev said last year. Though some experts have cast doubt on his words, the fact is that already in 2016 Russia returned to the level it had before the post-Soviet era in terms of the days at sea.

    With real and potential military threats in 2017, the Navy performed tasks to ensure security of the RF in distant lands. Russian combat ships maintained presence in the Gulf of Aden and the Horn of Africa, in the Mediterranean Sea and the Arctic, in the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans on a regular basis.

    International naval cooperation is seen as a political tool for demonstration of Russian presence in the global ocean. According to the statistics the collaboration is increasing greatly from year to year. Thus there were only 25 business calls to foreign ports made by Russian warships in 2015. In 2017 their numbers doubled and reached 49.

    As part of the development of the Northern Sea Route and the Arctic region, the Northern Fleet warships and auxiliary vessels completed a wide range of tasks last year. With submarines having spent at sea more than 3,000 days and all other classes of ships with more than 17,000 sailing days, Russian sailors have put tremendous work to show the national flag in distant lands.

    In 2018 the Northern fleet warships will continue to provide their presence and expand the ability to carry out vital missions in the strategically important areas of the World Ocean.
     
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    This looks like an article that has been cut and pasted. We have a requirement that all posts that contain quotes must have the source cited. This protects both the poster and the forum from accusations of plagiarism.

    Secondly, straight cut and pastes must have comments from the poster. I strongly suggest that you edit your post to reflect what I have just said.
     
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    Thanks a lot for your comment! I found this info on the Net and while I taped this post it just slipped my mind to give links to the original sources. I’m so sorry! Next time I’ll do my best to keep in mind the forum rules!

    Here are the sources:

    1. Cold War 2? Putin bolsters NUCLEAR sub fleet as Russian patrols hit Soviet-era levels

    2. Военный Совет Военно-Морского Флота подвел итоги 2017 года и определил задачи на следующий год
     
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    I think your data is just a top of the iceberg.

    A Norwegian source “Aldrimer.no” says: “In 2017 the Northern fleet fulfilled about 4,700 practical operations to increase its readiness…”

    As it stated besides the south seas of the World Ocean, they pay more and more attention to the research activity and navigable areas in the Arctic. You can read it here: (don’t forget to use Google to translate)

    www.aldrimer.no/voldsom-okning-i-nordflatens-aktivitet/
     
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    As per the link, the US has few resources for the Arctic other than nuclear subs, hence the recent push by the USCG for new heavy icebreakers. Meanwhile in Canada, the Arctic is being pretty much ignored. Denmark has more Arctic capability than Canada as does Norway in all likelihood.
     
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    To be fair, there doesn't appear to be much of a challenge to Canada's control of their Arctic. Russian claims are more tenuous. Hence a greater effort to back those claims by more then words.
     
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    True enough for now but it is not only about possible contested claims. Canada basically has no ability to enforce sovereignty in the Arctic on recognized jurisdiction. The Dewolfe AOPS will partially address this but their ice operational capability is limited. A 25 mm gun on a 6000 ton plus vessel that is costing $700million a copy is rather pathetic IMHO. The other issue is a very limited ability to respond a SAR event in the high Arctic, something I believe Canada has treaty obligations to honour. Political leaders are just punting Arctic sovereignty down the road to the poor sods who will likely have to contend with a mostly ice free Canadian Arctic in 20-30 years. I guess the good news is the AOPS will then be relevant assuming they get some better guns.
     
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    While Pirates are Forgotten they are not Gone

    Despite the obvious success, the pirates who once ruled the seas off Somalia are little more than a memory now, but while they are forgotten they are not gone. Anti-piracy patrols by international warships and armed guards aboard commercial vessels which continue to chug fast and far past the Somalia coast, have suppressed piracy, not stopped it.

    Somali pirates may have hung up their Kalashnikovs for now, but on the other side of Africa, piracy off the Nigerian coasts is increasing! In 2017, 33 incidents of piracy and robbery at sea, successful or otherwise, were reported within 12 nautical miles of the coastline. In 2011 there were only 10! Ultra-violent Nigerian pirates armed with heavy machineguns and rocket-propelled grenades are often behind the attacks. The number of kidnappings is also sky-high. According to the IMB, 65 of the 75 crew members kidnapped in 2017 were taken in or around Nigerian waters.

    I’m absolutely sure that an ongoing, international efforts are necessary to keep the peace in the region. Thanks to the step made by the EU NAVFOR EU Force Maintains Pirate Watch Off Somalia and separate countries like (for example) Russia https://www.marsecreview.com/2017/09/russia-on-piracy-patrol/, which are using their “best management practices” against sea pirates, the number of attacks is slowly decreasing.
     
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    Just found this article. Its unclear to me if the Admiral Kuznetsov is already under repair/heavy maintenance or just scheduled to get one...

    Russian Navy to get sole aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov in 2021
    ST. PETERSBURG, April 12. /TASS/. Russia’s sole aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov is expected to join the Russian Navy after repairs in 2021, Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov said on Thursday.

    "The aircraft carrier will undergo repairs and the replacement of all boilers and equipment. There is an agreement with shipbuilders on completing the repairs in 2020 and in 2021 the warship is due to return to the fleet," the deputy defense minister said.



    Complete article at: Russian Navy to get sole aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov in 2021
     
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    It's already under repairs but they're proceeding slowly due to continued price and timeframe negotiations. Given that disastrous state of Russian ship repair plants, 2021 is not a realistic timeline.
     
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    Any news about the first of the Ivan Gren-class amphibious assault ship?
    It seems that it will be handed over / commissioned at the end of this month.

    Russia wraps up sea trials of large amphibious assault ship
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    The warship is planned to be delivered to the customer until the end of May, according to the Yantar Shipyard spokesman

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    The Project 11711 large amphibious assault ship Ivan Gren
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    KALININGRAD, May 4. /TASS/. The Project 11711 large amphibious assault ship Ivan Gren built at the Yantar Shipyard on the Baltic coast has successfully completed sea trials, Shipyard spokesman Sergei Mikhailov told TASS on Friday.

    "On Thursday, May 3, the seaborne part of the state trials of the large amphibious assault ship Ivan Gren was completed. During the sea trials, the operation of the warship’s systems and complexes was checked by the state acceptance commission of Russia’s Defense Ministry," the spokesman said.

    The sea trials were held in the Baltic Sea and involved the shipbuilders’ team and the warship’s crew, the spokesman added.


    The Ivan Gren is currently staying in the shipyard’s harbor while works have started on its board to review its equipment and carry out finishing work, he added.


    "The warship is planned to be delivered to the customer until the end of May," Mikhailov said.



    Complete article at: Russia wraps up sea trials of large amphibious assault ship
     
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    I mean, the ship has been finished for some time now. The second vessel is nearing completion as well.

    To be honest, it would have been smart of the VMF to order a dozen of these. Given timeframes, and given that after much suffering, they've finally got the problems worked out, a run of 12 ships should be doable and affordable.
     
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    Yes, im agree. The Russian Navy doesn't have other large amphibious warfare ship with the retirement of the Ivan Rogov-class, and just a handful of Ropucha-class vessels, not really impressive for a worldpower.

    Ive read that there are no plans to build more ships following Petr Morgunov, because the ships have several design faults that includes hull stability and engine problems, but you tell that they've finally got the problems worked out.

    Do they plan a new class of large amphibious warfare ships? How about the development of the Lavina-class?
     
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    The problems had to do with constantly changing design requirements. The design is far from perfect and as an actual amphibious assault ship, the type is undoubtedly a terrible compromise. However the 775 and 1171 BDKs are worth their weight in gold to the VMF, being the main ready source of force projection capabilities for the Syrian deployment. Despite the induction of several civilian cargo ships, the BDKs remained in that role for quite some time (some are still being used now), and their service life isn't infinite. A dozen 11711s would allow them to maintain this capability while they slowly gear up for the production of domestic LHDs and hopefully an eventual carrier.

    Right now if another conflict like Syria breaks out, and Russia needs to prop up a friendly regime overseas, or even support a Russian Armed Forces deployment, the BDKs will once again take center stage, together with their An-124 and Il-76 fleet. And I'm far from optimistic about the pace at which Russia could potentially build a domestic LHD variant which is supposedly included in the GPV-2027.
     
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    The 11711 are just to small and limited platforms for Russian Navy. BALTIC built half of the second Russian Mistral, and its has place to built a lhd right now. Admiralty could finish the lhd once its launched like with diesel icebreaker. Yantar could build the lpd (Priboy). The 11711 is to small to host project a223 landing croft and a decent air component.
     
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    Could being the operative word. I have much more faith in Yantar working with a design they've already built two of, then Baltic and Admiralty working together on a brand new design. And, to top it off, where's the design?
     
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    Новый боевой корабль будет компромиссом между БДК и вертолетоносцем

    Baltic and Admiralty have good records in producing reasonably on time ships for the Russian Navy. There could be designs for lhd among other large combatants. Russia is upgrading most of the equipment of all of it's service branches. Russia has one of the largest defence weapons procurement budgets in the world, and strategic weapons are being favored at this time.
     
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