Royal Australian Air Force [RAAF] News, Discussions and Updates

Volkodav

The Bunker Group
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Understand the fighter competition was between F104 and Mirage.
With one European fighter already in the mix does anyone know why the SAAB Draken was not also considered?

Understand that the A7 has a better range and bigger load capability, but would not an A4 have greater compatibility with those operated by the RAN and RNZAF.
Shared training and logistics.
Draken was looked at during the original assessment, liked, but deemed not mature enough. For some reason it was not revisited.
 

OldTex

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Draken was looked at during the original assessment, liked, but deemed not mature enough. For some reason it was not revisited.
It might have been because Sweden, being neutral at that time, would not provide military equipment (including support) to countries engaged in armed conflict. I seem to remember that being a reason given for the ammunition for the Australian Army Carl Gustav's being embargoed during the Vietnam War (might only have been a rumour)
 

Severely

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Well in hindsight didn't the French block us using the Mirage in Vietnam anyway. They would embargo weapons and spares. So the venerable Canberra went in.
 

MickB

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Well in hindsight didn't the French block us using the Mirage in Vietnam anyway. They would embargo weapons and spares. So the venerable Canberra went in.
Recently read an article that states the embargo was not on Australian use of mirage in Vietnam but of Australia being an alternate supply line to Israel.
 

Tbone

Active Member

Have the finalised the latest ghost fo export yet? And what will the RAAF acquisition numbers be? It seems to be moving in the right direction for the ghost bat to be produced in mass! Really need a carrier based version to take off from the LHD’s since everyone is against F-35B’s
 

hauritz

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Have the finalised the latest ghost fo export yet? And what will the RAAF acquisition numbers be? It seems to be moving in the right direction for the ghost bat to be produced in mass! Really need a carrier based version to take off from the LHD’s since everyone is against F-35B’s
As things stand the MQ-28 is in competition with the XQ-58 Valkyrie and another undisclosed competitor for an Uncrewed Collaborative Combat Aircraft (UCCA) to be operational by 2029. Kratos, the makers of the XQ-28, have teamed up with Airbus.
 

koxinga

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C-27 to go. Short service life in RAAF.

MINISTER CONROY: Well, we've highlighted examples of that. They were highlighted in the document itself. So the biggest one is we're retiring the C‑27 Spartan light tactical aircraft because they're very, quite expensive to run for the purpose that they're using at the moment, which is for supporting Pacific nations and transport. And we'll replace through a Pacific aviation program.
 

koxinga

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Does RAAF need a dedicated tactical transport (e.g C-295) going forward?

The C130J overlaps in capabilities and there are 20 more coming soon. The cost of operating a mixed fleet might well be higher than just using a larger C130 fleet.
 

ADMk2

Just a bloke
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Does RAAF need a dedicated tactical transport (e.g C-295) going forward?

The C130J overlaps in capabilities and there are 20 more coming soon. The cost of operating a mixed fleet might well be higher than just using a larger C130 fleet.
There are lots of very short runways in our region which was the driver for Caribou and it’s replacement C-27J YET aren’t suitable for C-130J.

Probably a driver for a longer range Chinook capbility (air refuelling capable) or other rotary wing capability (MV-75 maybe?) than another STOL fixed wing…
 

old faithful

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My thoughts were for CH47 and air to air refuelling as well.
Also I noted that an option was mentioned for an SF aviation capability, possibly little bird, or more blackhawks?
 

StevoJH

The Bunker Group
There are lots of very short runways in our region which was the driver for Caribou and it’s replacement C-27J YET aren’t suitable for C-130J.

Probably a driver for a longer range Chinook capbility (air refuelling capable) or other rotary wing capability (MV-75 maybe?) than another STOL fixed wing…
Maybe the C27J is just too much aircraft for the requirement. The C27J has over 3x the carrying capacity of the Caribou.

It does have the advantage of commonality in terms of engines and other things with the C-130J though.
 

Wombat000

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I think it will be interesting to see if the ADF really can live without a smaller fixed wing STOL lifter.
We really do have a dispersed wide area of ops to account for.
 
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