The L2's we recently purchased from Germany are in such bad condition that they are all in storage awaiting repairs, and as I understand it the constant upgrading is more expensive than a brand new system capable easily accommodating future upgrades. Besides we are sick and tired of seeking permission from a bunch of tree hugging Germans every time we need to use equipment we have purchased with our cold hard cash. Besides there are lot of Oil/Gas rich Turkic central Asian states desperate to upgrade their equipment and we have no problems with supplying them, or didn't you notice the Turkish APC's being used by the Georgian Army?
If this is true, Turkey would be the first user I have heard of to complain about the Leopard 2. Dare I speculate that the problems are more to do with the user than the product?
The Germans sold us shit and I personally find your comments regarding end users offensive bordering on racists, the petrol and hydrologic pipes were so badly degraded every single tank is awaiting repair. Besides weapons are a drain on the economy - why should we not try and reduce the future cost by developing our own weapons systems and exporting them to third countries. Besides the Germans cut their own noses when they refused to sell us the Leopards in the first place, and I personally have an axe to grind, in the late 80's early 90's we had to make do with shite out of date M48 & M60's whilst Leopards languished in Army barracks because the Germans took offence to us using our own weapons for non NATO purposes?
Racist - considering your earlier comments in regards to Germans, I find your statement ironic!
Whats wrong with loving and wanting to hug trees, we Americans love trees to.
Then why would Turkey let hydraulic and fuel lines get to that point on their LEO`s, this is actually a quick fix that Turkey itself should be able to do.
Good information Kato, but he stated that they were LEO2 tanks, have you heard of any disgruntlement between Turkey and Germany inregards to what he posted, I will stand by my post that this is a quick fix that Turkey could do on their own, I used to Fabricate hydraulic lines for turrets out in the field.
This is the recent batch of L2's we purchased as a stop whilst waiting for the K2's
Is there any other issues with this batch that you have heard of. Also is Turkey going with the K2 entirely or are you using technologies from it.
That's all I have heard thus far -
So by that article ROK will assist with 50% of the technologies and help produce 4 proto types, I guess we still will not know what this tank will look like.