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Terran

Active Member
Because FLRAA is the Army program. And the Army is only setting a set of base requirements that both match. What the Oped is doing is trying to set a new set of requirements inside the established ones. If the Army picks Defiant X it’s not necessarily the end of Valor as the USMC has the independent AURA program then the USN and USAF can come in and say Defiant or Valor. Creating a secondary line.
But generally the view is that V280 is farther along with less risk. The Defiant has not exactly impressed with its flight demonstration program.
Now Yes the LCS seems to have been a split buy by the Navy who made the choice likely in part to maintain the two yards. But now with the end of LCS the USN stopped buying one of the classes and is moving with a new Frigate class from one yard and the other is moving to try and open production of that. However that doesn’t seem like a need here. Primarily as Sikorsky and Bell the two builders have bids for the FARA. Potential for bids in other projects along the line and civil aviation meaning that it’s not likely to result in a loosing Bell or Sikorsky ending up shuttered.
 

Sandhi Yudha

Well-Known Member
The Egyptian Ministry of Defence (MoD) confirmed the deal for 30 more Rafales on 4 May, noting that the €3,8 billion ($4,6 billion) procurement will be financed via a 10-year loan. These 30 come on top of the 24 Rafale already delivered to the Egypt Air Force which were ordered in 2015.


 

Sandhi Yudha

Well-Known Member
| " “The U.S. Government reviewed copies of the 71 drawings and determined that exports to and retransfers in the PRC [People’s Republic of China] of drawings for certain parts and components for the engine platforms for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, B-1B Lancer Long-Range Strategic Bomber, and the F-22 Fighter Aircraft harmed U.S. national security,” the charging document read." |

I just wonder what makes Honeywell doing this?

These are not some drawings of APUs found in civilian airliners for example.

 

kato

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
I just wonder what makes Honeywell doing this?
These are not some drawings of APUs found in civilian airliners for example.
From the official charge (google for "Honeywell DDTC Miller"):
I. Respondent’s Unauthorized Exports and Retransfers from July 2011 to October 2015 to Multiple Countries
Honeywell Aerospace’s Integrated Supply Chain (ISC) organization sent Request for Quotations (RFQs) to U.S. and foreign suppliers that contained drawings of parts for which suppliers were asked to provide price quotations. ISC personnel generally transfer drawings to suppliers through a file exchange platform called DEXcenter. In December 2015, Honeywell initially disclosed to the Department that it had identified multiple ITAR-controlled drawings that ISC personnel had exported without authorization via DEXcenter to Taiwan and the People’s Republic of China (PRC) in July 2015.
[...]
Some of the drawings contained technical data designated as SME. As defined in ITAR § 120.7, SME means articles for which special export controls are warranted because of their capacity for substantial military utility or capability. Pursuant to ITAR § 121.1(a)(2), technical data directly related to the manufacture or production of a defense article designated as SME is also designated as SME.
Relevant points for causation underlined.

In other words they were trying to find someone who builds these parts for them, and didn't quite observe ITAR in a market exploration among Chinese candidate companies, as well as when involving their Chinese subsidiary to negotiate for them.

The exact item to have been attempted to source from those suppliers abroad was apparently a number of parts, possibly electronics, that are primarily part of the LHTEC T800 turboshaft engine (codevelopment by Honeywell and Rolls-Royce in the 80s),with some of these parts derived from the Lycoming T55 (50s (!) design now owned by Honeywell) and with some of these parts a bit problematically currently used in other Honeywell gas turbines used in a variety of current platforms.

Note that despite the seemingly large number (71) it is each case of transfer that counts - not each individual image. Factually for that 2011-2015 charge It appears that it may have been a set of three drawings provided as a data package to 17 prospective supplier companies in China, as well as apparently Honeywell's Chinese subsidiary providing two drawings to 8 prospective suppliers, and a minor number of employees (1-2 each) in subsidiaries in various countries having also seen these drawings - which counts as well.
 
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John Fedup

The Bunker Group
Perhaps one test of the Brexit decision will be the the performance of the Tempest program versus the EU’s FACS. Based on this report the FACS progress seems lame versus the perceived image of Tempest moving along nicely. I’m betting on Tempest.
 

kato

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
Based on this report the FACS progress seems lame
Nah, this particular instance is about something else entirely.

Basically a couple months back the MoD and other parties got together to draw up a list of projects that can not be funded from the defense budget due to announcements that the defence budget would be cut severely over the coming years to accomodate funding efforts for the pandemic. Explicitly excluded from this list were pretty much all international cooperation projects (FCAS, MGCS, U212CD...) plus a couple other projects seen as strategically important. Of course by keeping such big-ticket projects off the list it cuts more severely into other projects of the MoD.

The MoD is now attempting to turn this around by shoving a separate list at the budget committee of parliament of projects with a tagline "sign off on this, we don't have money, but we want this" - and that includes projects that were left off the first list. She even topped that by marking every project currently unfunded as "to be paid from federal budget". As in not her budget.

Items marked such are mostly Air Force and Navy, for the Air Force these are exactly:
  • FCAS development with France and Spain ("Demonstrator Phase 1B")
  • PEGASUS development (specifically integration of Eurohawk ISIS sensor package into already funded three Global 6000 aircraft).
  • HADR successor with TBMD capability (four units for westernmost radar stations in Germany).
  • modular air-transportable Air Traffic Control System.
  • modular air-transportable image processing station for Tornado Recce.
The political problem about how the MoD proceeds here is that this is not how you get projects passed. Step 1: Get the funding in your budget. Step 2: Have the parliament (budget committee) okay the procurement itself if it's over 25 million Euro.

Perhaps one test of the Brexit decision will be the the performance of the Tempest program versus the EU’s FACS.
Brexit is irrelevant to military procurement. There is no difference whether you're "in" or "out".
 

swerve

Super Moderator
Perhaps one test of the Brexit decision will be the the performance of the Tempest program versus the EU’s FACS. Based on this report the FACS progress seems lame versus the perceived image of Tempest moving along nicely. I’m betting on Tempest.
FACS is not an EU project. It is a project of countries which are in the EU. There are also EU countries involved in Tempest, & the British government would welcome more.
 

John Fedup

The Bunker Group
Nah, this particular instance is about something else entirely.

Basically a couple months back the MoD and other parties got together to draw up a list of projects that can not be funded from the defense budget due to announcements that the defence budget would be cut severely over the coming years to accomodate funding efforts for the pandemic. Explicitly excluded from this list were pretty much all international cooperation projects (FCAS, MGCS, U212CD...) plus a couple other projects seen as strategically important. Of course by keeping such big-ticket projects off the list it cuts more severely into other projects of the MoD.

The MoD is now attempting to turn this around by shoving a separate list at the budget committee of parliament of projects with a tagline "sign off on this, we don't have money, but we want this" - and that includes projects that were left off the first list. She even topped that by marking every project currently unfunded as "to be paid from federal budget". As in not her budget.

Items marked such are mostly Air Force and Navy, for the Air Force these are exactly:
  • FCAS development with France and Spain ("Demonstrator Phase 1B")
  • PEGASUS development (specifically integration of Eurohawk ISIS sensor package into already funded three Global 6000 aircraft).
  • HADR successor with TBMD capability (four units for westernmost radar stations in Germany).
  • modular air-transportable Air Traffic Control System.
  • modular air-transportable image processing station for Tornado Recce.
The political problem about how the MoD proceeds here is that this is not how you get projects passed. Step 1: Get the funding in your budget. Step 2: Have the parliament (budget committee) okay the procurement itself if it's over 25 million Euro.


Brexit is irrelevant to military procurement. There is no difference whether you're "in" or "out".
Really, UK supply subcontractors would be on the same playing field as EU subcontractors and viscera? If this is the case, what’s the fuss over Brexit?
 

kato

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
There are also EU countries involved in Tempest, & the British government would welcome more.
Sweden and Italy, to be exact. Everyone else in the EU with an aerospace industry is involved in FCAS. British invitation initiatives for Tempest run more outside Europe.

With regard to timeline, since it was mentioned, we shouldn't forget that the roadmap for Tempest foresees a production aircraft in 2035 instead of 2040 for FCAS, hence any progress on this considerably diminished timeframe being far more important for Tempest.

Really, UK supply subcontractors would be on the same playing field as EU subcontractors and viscera?
Military procurement at this level of ambition (and in this kind of field) is factually not open to EU-wide tenders anyway, but restricted to selected suppliers due to industrial and strategic concerns. This includes subcontracting. And is not limited to the EU. As such, yes, UK subcontractors are on the same playing field.
 

Sandhi Yudha

Well-Known Member
According to several sources Tunisia seems to be very interested in Kuwaits' used F-18s. How serious is this news (i havent seen this in other defence websites), in what stages are the negotiations and does Tunisia wants to pay for this or do they expected some donations?


 

Sandhi Yudha

Well-Known Member
Two pilots are successfully ejected from their F-15QA.
It is unclear yet what the reason is of the ejection, when it happened (before take-off, during take-off or after landing) and if the pilots are McDonnell-Douglas pilots or Qatar Air Force pilots.

Both pilots are in good condition, and also the F-15QA looks usable again after the necessary inspections.
 
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