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Indonesia: 'green water navy'

Discussion in 'Navy & Maritime' started by Supe, Jun 28, 2005.

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  1. Ananda

    Ananda Well-Known Member

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    I think the latter what the TNI-AL source referred to. Found some article and blog from French source (example below) that saying Blk 3 already have limited ground attack capabilities.
    Thus I presume Blk 3 have capabilities to engage ground target near coastal zone (perhaps like naval facilities).

    Athéna et moi...: La France commande des Exocet Block3
     
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    Congrats to the TNI AL on acquiring this capability. The Singapore Navy is still using our Block IC missiles.
    Exocet Block 3 have land attack capability, it’s even stated in the brochure. They talk about coastal land attack capability because the Europeans also sell other types of land attack missiles. See extract below:

    EXOCET MM40 BLOCK 3’s Mission Planning software module automatically computes engagement plans to support firing decisions.
    • 200 km class effective operational range
    • Anti-ship as well as littoral operations [aka overland flight to mask approach] and coastal land attack capability
    • Outstanding penetration capability against enemy air defences
     
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    Great to know that
    - Not only the SIGMA 10514 frigates, but also the SIGMA 9113 corvettes arr capable of firing the MM40 Block III.
    - TNI-AL now have 180 km inland strike capability...
     
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    Nice looking ships
     
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    The Navy should release most of their smaller patrol duties to Bakamla/Coast Guard. I don't get why the Mindef still allowed the Navy to build small patrol boats, after Bakamla already institutionalized.

    The Navy from what 'rumours' circulated still in implementation did not want to relinquish
    some of jurisdiction to Bakamla. This is the game of 'slice of cake' that some factions in the Navy fell should not be taken away from them.

    This administration second round should put more clear on the jurisdiction of institutions on handling maritime security.
     
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    Just found a video being put in You Tube on KRI Bontang as second domestic build fleet tanker with RAS capabilities. This ship build by a private owned shipyard in Batam (PT. Batamec), while the first domestic build fleet tanker KRI Tarakan build by State Owned Shipyard PT. DKB

    Below is video of Tarakan doing RAS (also found in you tube).



    As comparison, eventough both ships share similar based design,but seems Bontang have some improvement in superstructure. Not having much information yet on what the difference in superstructure.

    Some information being circulated told aside liquids capabilities (fresh water and fuel), they also have abilities for dry cargo. However I'm still not sure if the dry cargo include munitions capabilities.
     
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    This article that I want to attach from Forbes, is not related to Naval ships, but related to Thorium Reactor from Thorcon. Seems the design of Thorcon reactor with Shipyard related to the intended floating based platform.

    ThorCon Advanced Nuclear Reactor -- More Than Worth Its Weight In Salt

    So far, Thorium seems promising less radioactive waste, and more efficient heat generation. Thus operated less nuclear fuel. Will see how this going to be developed.
     
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    So, from First Steel Cutting to Keel Laying just three months.





    A recent interesting video with several PAL-designs.
    Angra Ballerina
     
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    In september last year they launched the KRI Bontang 907, and on the first video from last November they were "undocking" her, is that some kind of sea trials?

    Some videos from KRI Teluk Lada 521 from earlier this year but not yet posted here.

     
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    At last...
    PT PAL Indonesia

    At last, the Oerlikon Millennium 35 mm CIWS is installed and operationable. Now only left over are the MICA VLS, MM40 Exocet Block 3 and torpedo tubes.


    And the Midlife Modernisation on KRI Malahayati 362 has been finished now. New propulsion systems, new Combat Management Systems, new radar and other sensors, repairs on the sonar dome. Remarkable that they only tested the aft Bofors 40 mm gun, which is totally manually operated..
     
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