It won't be fitted with either, the item is not funded. The ship (singular, as only one will be outfitted) will have basic CAMM missiles only.
In case you mean the MR vs ER, that's not a typo.
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In case you mean the MR vs ER, that's not a typo.
SolarisKenzo
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Romania officially scrap 1.2 billions deal with France after joining EU Corvettes program.
www.reuters.com
defence-industry.eu
Romania cancels 1.2 bln euro warships deal with France's Naval Group
Romania's defence ministry said late on Tuesday it has cancelled a long-delayed deal to buy four warships from French firm Naval Group after the company and a junior partner failed to meet a deadline to sign a contract.
www.reuters.com
PESCO: Romania joins European Patrol Corvette project
Romania has joined the European Patrol Corvette (EPC) project, becoming the newest member alongside France, Greece, Italy, and Spain.
defence-industry.eu
Here is an interesting news. INS Nahson, the first Israeli landing craft was commissioned on 8 August at the Pascagoula Shipyard, US.
Very limited official photos were released, but based on those photos (especially the bow landing ramp and deck house), it appears to be a Robert T. Kuroda class (variant of the Frank S. Besson) LSV design.
Very limited official photos were released, but based on those photos (especially the bow landing ramp and deck house), it appears to be a Robert T. Kuroda class (variant of the Frank S. Besson) LSV design.
There are some rumours that Romania is interested in a couple of used LCS; the European Patrol Corvette project is only expected to deliver the first vessel around the 2030 mark.
SolarisKenzo
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But that's actually very different, Gowind-class ( which they scrapped in favour of EPC ) were to be built brand new in Romania and wouldn't have come until 2028-2029.
Used LCS could certainly be available sooner.
Ananda
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จีนเสร็จสิ้นการรับรองมาตรฐานเครื่องยนต์ดีเซลกำเนิดพลังงานไฟฟ้า CHD620V16H6 สำหรับเรือดำน้ำ
"The type certification test of CHD620V16H6 diesel engine was successfully completed" Henan Diesel Engine Co., Ltd (HND) subsidiary of China...
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China already certified indigenous marine diesel engine for Submarine. This is what they're offering to Thai's and Pakistan's Submarine order, as German block MTU on Chinese export. This is also hope by China to give them more options toward submarine export markets.
Sandhi Yudha
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It is totally understandable that Germany doesn't want to sell its advanced dieselsubmarine engines to china. But it is also logic that china will use its own engines, which are already used in their Type 39A submarines, for the export (S-26T) boats.จีนเสร็จสิ้นการรับรองมาตรฐานเครื่องยนต์ดีเซลกำเนิดพลังงานไฟฟ้า CHD620V16H6 สำหรับเรือดำน้ำ
"The type certification test of CHD620V16H6 diesel engine was successfully completed" Henan Diesel Engine Co., Ltd (HND) subsidiary of China...
China already certified indigenous marine diesel engine for Submarine. This is what they're offering to Thai's and Pakistan's Submarine order, as German block MTU on Chinese export. This is also hope by China to give them more options toward submarine export markets.
Ananda
The Bunker Group
Thailand Turns To Pakistan To Check China's 'Reversed Engineered' Submarines; Bangkok Could Accept Beijing's Yuan-Class Sub
With Germany categorically refusing to supply its engine to power the Yuan-class submarine purchased by Thailand from China, the Thai government finally appears to be warming to the idea of settling for Chinese engines instead.
www.eurasiantimes.com
However German sold hundreds of MTU Diesels so far to PLAN Submarine and Surface ships. The way I see it it is more on export market competitions. Thailand is an export market that Euro MIC like the Germans also want to target.
Sandhi Yudha
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With other words, china already got enough chances to reverse engineer MTU-engines and steal German technology.Thailand Turns To Pakistan To Check China's 'Reversed Engineered' Submarines; Bangkok Could Accept Beijing's Yuan-Class Sub
With Germany categorically refusing to supply its engine to power the Yuan-class submarine purchased by Thailand from China, the Thai government finally appears to be warming to the idea of settling for Chinese engines instead.
However German sold hundreds of MTU Diesels so far to PLAN Submarine and Surface ships. The way I see it it is more on export market competitions. Thailand is an export market that Euro MIC like the Germans also want to target.
Ananda
The Bunker Group
The ability of Chinese to reverse engineering other people tech, is something that many OEM seems underestimate until it was too late. Some people smeer China ability to reverse engineer as mere abilities as copies builders.
Interestingly those who smeer that abilities, are mostly non engineer. Engineer and scientists will know how difficult it is to reverse engineer something. I used to also smeer Chinese as just copy builders, until one of my industrial owner client shown how difficult it is to replicate Chinese strategies.
Not everyone can do proper reverse engineering and improvise that to your own design. In which why many others newly industrial nations still not able to achieve what China done.
Interestingly those who smeer that abilities, are mostly non engineer. Engineer and scientists will know how difficult it is to reverse engineer something. I used to also smeer Chinese as just copy builders, until one of my industrial owner client shown how difficult it is to replicate Chinese strategies.
Not everyone can do proper reverse engineering and improvise that to your own design. In which why many others newly industrial nations still not able to achieve what China done.
They have legal channels, like MAN/SEMT Pielstick which gave them a license and have been producing them for 2 decades. So no surprise they have the tech
The question therefore is quality. See, PLAN themselves were using German imported MTU diesels on their YUAN class submarines, instead of the CHD620V16H6. That tells you something about the quality (perceived or real, your guess is as good as mine).
The Chinese copy engine can function, no doubt, but it is about the acoustic signature that it emits. Is it close or equal to German buit engine? This is probably the reason for the hesitation by the Thais.
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Redlands18
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Israel Launches New Submarine, First In World With Modern Missiles In Sail - Naval News
Details have emerged on Israel's next Submarine, with an enlarged sail for vertically launched Nuclear tipped Missiles and four 650mm horizontal tubes for a next gen SLCMs.
Details have emerged on Israel's next Submarine, with an enlarged sail for vertically launched Nuclear tipped Missiles and four 650mm horizontal tubes for a next gen SLCMs.
Ananda
The Bunker Group
북한 해군 최신예 전투함 압록급 호위함
핵전력과 투발수단 등의 비대칭 전략무기체계에 사활을 걸고 있는 북한이지만 그럼에도 어느 적정규모의 재래식 통상전력들도 포기한 것은 아닌지 육해공......
bemil.chosun.com
Assessment from Bemil Chosun on DPRK newest and largest surface Frigate (more in line as Corvette base on latest current trend). Call Yalu River class. Off course nothing to compare with neighbors surface ships, but for a broke nation still an accomplishment.
Don't give illusions it will stand a chance to ROKN Frigates/Destroyers on open confrontation. However I do sense it is not build for that. It is more likely hit and run border skirmish. The article also talk on latest DPRK SSM and Torpedoes.
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My personal opinion though, compare to other Western 'pariah' nations like Myanmar and Iran latest Frigates/Corvettes, they're build on similar size level, and seems on similarly operational concepts.
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Sandhi Yudha
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And now we have here some interesting images of this new highly advanced multirole stealth corvette (for North-Korean standard). It is capable of carrying and deploying strategic cruise missiles, and it is of course without any doubt designed and constructed under direct supervision of the Supreme Leader.북한 해군 최신예 전투함 압록급 호위함
핵전력과 투발수단 등의 비대칭 전략무기체계에 사활을 걸고 있는 북한이지만 그럼에도 어느 적정규모의 재래식 통상전력들도 포기한 것은 아닌지 육해공......bemil.chosun.com
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Assessment from Bemil Chosun on DPRK newest and largest surface Frigate (more in line as Corvette base on latest current trend). Call Yalu River class. Off course nothing to compare with neighbors surface ships, but for a broke nation still an accomplishment.
Don't give illusions it will stand a chance to ROKN Frigates/Destroyers on open confrontation. However I do sense it is not build for that. It is more likely hit and run border skirmish. The article also talk on latest DPRK SSM and Torpedoes.
Note:
My personal opinion though, compare to other Western 'pariah' nations like Myanmar and Iran latest Frigates/Corvettes, they're build on similar size level, and seems on similarly operational concepts.
North Korea reveals a new cruise missile-armed corvette - Naval News
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un inspected the Korean People's Army Navy’s newest Amnok-class corvette capable of launching cruise missiles...
www.navalnews.com
Is it me or is that an open gun shield on the main gun? It does look that way which is fairly primitive.북한 해군 최신예 전투함 압록급 호위함
핵전력과 투발수단 등의 비대칭 전략무기체계에 사활을 걸고 있는 북한이지만 그럼에도 어느 적정규모의 재래식 통상전력들도 포기한 것은 아닌지 육해공......bemil.chosun.com
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Assessment from Bemil Chosun on DPRK newest and largest surface Frigate (more in line as Corvette base on latest current trend). Call Yalu River class. Off course nothing to compare with neighbors surface ships, but for a broke nation still an accomplishment.
Don't give illusions it will stand a chance to ROKN Frigates/Destroyers on open confrontation. However I do sense it is not build for that. It is more likely hit and run border skirmish. The article also talk on latest DPRK SSM and Torpedoes.
Note:
My personal opinion though, compare to other Western 'pariah' nations like Myanmar and Iran latest Frigates/Corvettes, they're build on similar size level, and seems on similarly operational concepts.
Sandhi Yudha
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Yes, it is indeed not really a stealthy and advanced design. This old 100 mm gun is maybe recycled from a retired Najin-class frigate.
Something else...
After years of huge acquisitions, Poland plans to add another large procurement on the shopping list. The contract includes the delivery of “several hundred” NSM missiles, command vehicles, launchers and other vehicles. Deliveries will be made between 2026 and 2032.
Poland Orders Large Amount of NSM Missiles - Naval News
Poland signed a record deal with Kongsberg to procure "several hundred" NSM missiles, command vehicles, launchers and other vehicles...
www.navalnews.com
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Redlands18
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Three dead after being washed off submarine when wave crashed into it (msn.com)
Three Sailors are dead after seven crew members of a RSA Submarine were swept off the hull by a wave. All seven were found but despite all efforts two men and one woman died. The Sub was exercising with a Helicopter at the time and a surface swimmer from the Helicopter is also in Hospital.
Three Sailors are dead after seven crew members of a RSA Submarine were swept off the hull by a wave. All seven were found but despite all efforts two men and one woman died. The Sub was exercising with a Helicopter at the time and a surface swimmer from the Helicopter is also in Hospital.
Three dead after being washed off submarine when wave crashed into it (msn.com)
Three Sailors are dead after seven crew members of a RSA Submarine were swept off the hull by a wave. All seven were found but despite all efforts two men and one woman died. The Sub was exercising with a Helicopter at the time and a surface swimmer from the Helicopter is also in Hospital.
May they RIP.
There are no flowers on a sailor’s grave
No lilies on an ocean wave
The only tribute is the seagulls sweep
And the tears upon a loved one’s cheek
Fear not for those who go down to the sea in ships
For as sunset draws near and dawn breaks afar
We remember those who have crossed the bar