Covid-19 pandemic & Fake News - How you can help

OPSSG

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Public service announcement on sharing fake and inaccurate news; or using a misleading interpretation of select facts to make a political point.

Many would most certainly like to share views, news and information about the on-going Covid-19 pandemic here or on other social media sites.

1. Be a RESPONSIBLE person, please DO NOT post and share FAKE news and information.

2. Do not be finger-trigger-happy and just share. READ through the news first instead of just the headlines. When in doubt, DO NOT share and post. Search the web, Google it and check with other major news websites to see if the news is correct.

3. Check the DATE of the news. In such fluid times when and where anything can change in the next 12 hours or a day. Yesterday's news or even this morning's news can be old news. Share and post timely news.

4. I STRESS and EMPHASIZE about READING the news article and information yourself first because by just reading the headlines, you could be misled then share. Thereby putting up MISLEADING messages of your own.

All these could lead to unwanted and unnecessary panic. Fake news stops with you. Be Responsible, Read, Curate then Share.

#TogetherWeCanOvercome #Covid19 #Coronavirus
 
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Living life with the threat of Corvid-19 spread in Singapore — under the current Phase 2 reopening plan

1. High test rates and use of masks to prevent the heath system from being overwhelmed—Singapore swabbed nearly 900,000 people, more than 15% of its 5.7 million population, according to official data — one of the highest per capita rates globally. The city-state made masks mandatory in public in April. While experts have said more studies need be done, there is growing evidence that wearing masks helps reduce the prevalance and severity of the virus. The WHO has recommended the use of masks in combination with other social distancing measures.

"We have adopted a good mask culture in Singapore. This makes the disease milder," said Dr Leong Hoe Nam, an infectious diseases expert.​

2. As of 19 Sep 2020, Singapore’s Ministry of Health (MOH) has confirmed an additional 15 cases, with 1 case in the community, who is a Singaporean. There are 5 imported cases, who had all been placed on Stay-Home Notice upon arrival in Singapore. Many of the new cases are asymptomatic and were proactively detected, the MOH said. 27% of the new cases have no established links.

3. When the health system is not overwhelmed, Singapore hospitals can give better care and have started using awake prone positioning (PP) combined with high-flow nasal cannula, to reduce mortality rates — with just 27 deaths among the more than 57,000 people who have been infected with Covid-19 — keeping the death rate at 0.05% instead of the average of 3%. Read more at Explainer: Why Singapore's Covid-19 death rate is the world's lowest

4. Amongst the cases residing in dorms, many been identified earlier as contacts of previous cases and were tested during quarantine, said the MOH. The remaining cases were detected through surveillance testing, such as the bi-weekly rostered routine testing of workers living in dorms.

5. About 5,700 workers who are required to undergo the routine testing have yet to do so, said the Ministry of Manpower, Economic Development Board, Building and Construction Authority, and Health Promotion Board in a joint statement.

6. Singapore’s ‘circuit breaker’ measures comprise a three-phase plan for gradual re-opening. After more than two months of lockdown, it entered phase two – the safe transition period – on 19 Jun 2020, after which Singaporeans could dine out in restaurants and bars, and regain some sort of social life.

7. Most restaurants and bars have reopened. Under the phase two regulations, customers must receive mandatory temperature checks and contact tracing procedures when visiting the venues. Each table can only serve groups of five people, and there should be a one-metre space between the tables.

8. Singapore will gradually re-open borders for Singaporeans to conduct essential activities overseas and to allow safe travel for foreigners entering or transiting through Singapore. Necessary precautions and safeguards will be in place. As the global situation remains volatile, such moves will be assessed and implemented separately from the timing of the three phases of re-opening outlined.

9. Singapore will continue building on the city-state’s capabilities in the following areas:

(i) Expanding testing capacity to be able to diagnose cases early, screen all individuals at risk, and protect the more vulnerable groups​
(ii) Speed up contact tracing to identify and isolate close contacts of infected persons​
(iii) Ensure sufficient healthcare capacity to deal with any potential surges in cases​
If community transmission rates remain low, Singapore can then move to Phase 3, next.

10. The goal is to transition eventually to Phase 3 as the ‘new normal’ by 2021 (if conditions allow) and Singapore is expected to remain at this state until an effective vaccine or treatment for COVID-19 is developed. What’s expected to be allowed in a future Phase 3:
  • Social, cultural, religious and business gatherings or events would have resumed
    Gathering sizes would have to be limited in order to prevent large clusters from arising.

  • Seniors would be able to resume day-to-day activities

  • Safe distancing measures need to be practised, peak period travel, crowded places and large groups need to be avoided.
 

OPSSG

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US President Donald Trump said he and first lady Melania Trump have tested positive for COVID-19.

Trump made the announcement on his Twitter account on Thursday (Oct 1): "Tonight, @FLOTUS and I tested positive for COVID-19. We will begin our quarantine and recovery process immediately. We will get through this TOGETHER!"

Multiple White House staffers have tested positive for the virus, including Katie Miller, Vice President Mike Pence’s press secretary, national security adviser Robert O'Brien, and one of the president's personal valets. Kimberly Guilfoyle, who is dating Trump’s oldest son, Donald Trump Jr., tested positive in South Dakota before an Independence Day fireworks show at Mount Rushmore. Until the Oct 1 announcement, Trump had consistently played down concerns about being personally vulnerable to contracting COVID-19.
 

John Fedup

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The forthcoming election has already been complicated by Trump’s false claims of potential fraud with mail in ballots. Now there is the possibility he may not be able to run and there is a very slight chance Biden may have been infected during the debate. If any of this happens, the election outcome will be a C-F. Meanwhile, how many more senior administration officials will become infected by Trump’s encouragement to ignore masks? This could be an opportunity for Xi and Putin to stir the pot.
 

Todjaeger

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The forthcoming election has already been complicated by Trump’s false claims of potential fraud with mail in ballots. Now there is the possibility he may not be able to run and there is a very slight chance Biden may have been infected during the debate. If any of this happens, the election outcome will be a C-F. Meanwhile, how many more senior administration officials will become infected by Trump’s encouragement to ignore masks? This could be an opportunity for Xi and Putin to stir the pot.
No, it will NOT be an opportunity to stir the pot. The pot-stirring has already been going on for some time now. There is the potential for everything to get dumped into a Waring blender and Xi, Putin, Kim or one of the others to then hit the frape button though.

Depending on how the case goes, it could (finally) trigger an Article 25 Section 4 action, though that could also make the balloting problematic and without precedent.

Also of interest is whether or not Biden will get re-tested after 5 days, as that is apparently part of the procedures for some of the more senior/important officials within gov't if they have been exposed. It does make sense given the rate for false results in testing, as well as the potential for a newly infected person to not have had sufficient internal spread to leave traces for tests to detect.
 

Todjaeger

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Just remember this is a Covid-19 thread, not a US political thread, which is verboten here by the way, so don't derail the thread.
:mad: The unfortunate reality in the US is that COVID-19 is political at this point. This is of course problematic on a number of different levels, because a virus being a virus has no political affiliations in terms of who it will or will not infect. When both individuals, organizations, and officials/policymakers making response decisions based upon politics as opposed to medical/scientific best practices...

BTW there are still people in the US who seem firmly convinced that the virus is a hoax and/or exaggerated in terms of impact, despite the recent news about POTUS being hospitalized with COVID-19 and a number of administration officials having been at least exposed if not infected, along with congressional leadership. It does seem as though the stubborn refusal will continue until these holdouts either get infected, or personally see someone they know get infected with it.
 

ngatimozart

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A RN SSBN CO is going to have some explaining to do to their Lordships of the Admiralty when his boat returns to the UK. I think that some members of the crew will be before the CO with their caps off well before the sub leaves US territorial waters. Stoppage of leave and pay might be the least of their worries.

 

StobieWan

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Oh dear - bomber crews gotta be bomber crews I guess. Given infection rates in Florida, that's a whole kind of stupid.
 

Atlantic Realm

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Well, 30 of them managed to get themselves infected. I'm actually surprised leave was granted - might have been better to keep 'em penned up.
Tested positive for shed viruses from months ago most likely. Florida managed the virus much better than peer states and most countries in the West.
 

oldsig127

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Tested positive for shed viruses from months ago most likely. Florida managed the virus much better than peer states and most countries in the West.
Yeah, only about 16k deaths to date comparable with nearby Texas but five times that in Alabama.

oldsig.
 

swerve

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Total number of deaths isn't the best measure. Deaths in proportion to population is better.

Deaths per million population:
Florida 750
Georgia 723
Texas 607
Alabama 572
USA 682

For comparison -
Spain 732
UK 647
Italy 607
France 519
Germany 119

I don't see Florida as having managed the virus particularly well. More deaths than the US average, or the major European countries.

But if you look at new cases Texas is doing much worse than Florida, & so's Alabama.
 

Atlantic Realm

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Neither do I. I was being facetious- no way there's anything positive in the FL record aside from it so far not having killed my friends in St Pete.

oldsig
Look, virus is gonna virus. Mark 2020 as the year ‘experts’ decided to pretend we could hide from a submicroscopic particle for which person-to-person is just one potential vector. And guess what ? You’ve been breathing Covid all year ... and you’re still alive!

@Atlantic Realm

Dismissing COVID-19 as something we just have to live with (suggesting it is essentially a non-event) flies in the face the growing understanding of the bug, the action being taken to control it and the impact it has had on many lives. You need to drop this topic as I suspect it will divert the thread off topic and the comments are contentious in any case.

Regards

Alexsa
 

ngatimozart

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In this Brave New World wash your hands, stay home if sick and protect the frail elderly is tin foil hat territory.
The Forum doesn't tolerate fake news and false narratives. At the present time this could also be classified as a political statement given the posters location and politics are forbidden on the forum. Any more such incidents from you will result in Moderator action. Consider this as an adjunct to the second warning that you have managed to accumulate in the space of two posts made within 6 minutes. Not a good look for your continued stay here especially as you have attracted the attention of two of the three grumpiest Moderators on here.
 

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Tested positive for shed viruses from months ago most likely. Florida managed the virus much better than peer states and most countries in the West.
1. Rubbish. Florida’s death toll of 16,544 people from CORVID-19 is higher than Germany (9,960 deaths), South Korea (455 deaths), NZ (25 deaths), and Singapore (28 deaths) combined.

2. In Florida there have been 771,780 cases of coronavirus since March, according to the Florida Department of Health. On 23 Oct 2020, the weekly case average increased to about 3,335 coronavirus cases announced per day. Therefore, Florida at 750 deaths per million due to CORVID-19 is incompetent and doing poorly by comparison to Europe and criminally negligent compared to 4 of the 5 countries listed below:
(a) France (519 deaths per million);​
(b) Germany (119 deaths per million);​
(c) South Korea (8.9 deaths per million);​
(d) NZ (5 deaths per million); or​
(e) Singapore (4.3 deaths per million).​

In this Brave New World wash your hands, stay home if sick and protect the frail elderly is tin foil hat territory.
3. US President Trump’s refusal to use masks has caught up with him, resulting in his family and the White House becoming a cluster of CORVID-19 infections. In this Brave New World that Germany, Korea, NZ and Singapore is part of, frequent hand washing is recommended and wearing a mask when leaving home is the norm. Let me share some facts from Singapore:
(a) Masks help to reduce the expulsion and transmission of droplets, which is the predominant route of transmission of COVID-19 (see Ministry of Heath (MOH) FAQ).​
(b) Some 11 million masks were given out to Singaporean residents, along with free hand sanitisers, as part of CORVID-19 efforts by Temasek Holdings to support the nation's fight against the pandemic.​
(c) In addition, about one million face shields were distributed to young schoolchildren and front-line workers in the food and beverage industry, while 250,000 oximeters - devices used to measure blood oxygen levels - were donated to various groups in the community.​

(d) It will soon be compulsory to use the TraceTogether app or token to perform SafeEntry check-in at certain venues conducting activities with large groups of people in Singapore. This transition from other SafeEntry methods, such as scanning identity cards, is vital as Singapore prepares to resume larger-scale events and further reopen its economy safely, said Singapore’s Smart Nation and Digital Government Office.​
Deaths per million population:
Florida 750
Georgia 723
Texas 607
Alabama 572
USA 682

For comparison -
Spain 732
UK 647
Italy 607
France 519
Germany 119

I don't see Florida as having managed the virus particularly well. More deaths than the US average, or the major European countries.
4. Agreed. In Europe, Germany with 417,350 infected and 119 deaths per million is often seen as the gold standard for CORVID-19 management.

5. In common with other countries that have a competent pandemic response (like Korea, NZ and Singapore), what’s often cited for Germany’s above average effectiveness in its governmental response is through:
(a) an effective deployment of technology, such as a contact tracing app, to fight the pandemic;​
(b) the frequently praised mass testing program, which rivals South Korea’s; and​

The most important factor is leadership that understands the science and engineering efforts needed to solve problems. In this regard it helps that Angela Merkel has a doctorate in quantum chemistry and heads a country that treats scientists, like the Berlin-based virologist and podcaster Christian Drosten, like superstars.

6. When compared to Europe’s gold standard, South Korea, New Zealand and Singapore are the platinum standard for CORVID-19 management that would put any American state or city to shame — taking the pandemic seriously, these countries despite some set backs, have managed risks properly:

(a) South Korea has had a total of 455 CORVID-19 deaths, to date, with a population of about 51.3 million. Korea has 25,698 cases and has the 2nd lowest rate of reported cases at 268 per million population in OECD countries (above Japan at 181; as per 17 July). The fight to keep infection rates down is ongoing with some set-backs, including on 21 Oct 2020, when Korea added 121 new coronavirus cases — 104 locally transmitted and 17 imported from overseas. It marks the first time the number of locally transmitted cases surpassed 100 since 24 Sep 2020. A total of 26 cases were traced to a medical institution and a nursing facility, both in Gyeonggi Province, where infected patients from a family gathering spread the virus at their workplace and a senior care home. New clusters of infections were also reported from a swimming pool in southwestern Seoul, and from a clothing factory in Yangju, Gyeonggi Province, with 10 cases and seven cases linked to the clusters so far, respectively.​
(b) NZ has had a total of 25 CORVID-19 deaths, to date, with a population of about 5 million. NZ has 1,914 confirmed and probable cases (as at 22 Oct 2020), has the third lowest rate of reported cases at 310 per million population (above Japan at 181 and South Korea at 267; as per 17 July).​

(c) Singapore has had a total of 28 CORVID-19 deaths, with a population of about 6.5 million; partly because smart management of pandemic risks ensured that the heath system was never over-whelmed. This is despite the fact that 57,941 were infected, which is a much higher rate per million of population than in Korea or NZ. In Apr 2020 infections peaked at 1,426 cases per day, to 300 per day in July, to 8 per day (as at 22 Oct 2020). From Apr to Aug 2020, Singapore struggled to bring infection rates per million of population (that was higher than Korea or NZ) under control; but as the numbers show in Oct, transmission rates have gone way down thanks to effective leadership and testing, contact tracing, use of technology, and numerous other effective measures at a whole-of-government level.​

(d) Deaths per million population compared:​
Germany 119
Korea 8.9​
NZ 5​
Singapore 4.3​

(e) Total COVID-19 infections compared:​
Germany 417,350
Korea 25,698​
NZ 1,914​
Singapore 57,941​

7. As of 17 Oct 2020, 37 COVID-19 patients remain hospitalised in Singapore, with none in intensive care. In Singapore more than 99% of those infected have been discharged, while there are 41 in community care facilities.

(a) One of the most effective ways of keeping patients alive in the early days was flipping them around to lie prone - or on their front - instead of on their backs when they were on ventilators.​
(b) But the simple manoeuvre helped patients breathe easier and absorb oxygen better, buying time for the body to recover as there was no effective therapy at that point in the outbreak.​
 
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tonnyc

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Don't bother giving Atlantic Realm the benefit of the doubt. Look at his posting history. He is not someone who joins our group wanting to talk about defense matters and then talking about current events such as the coronavirus pandemic. He is an account specifically created to spread misinformation about the coronavirus. Look at the way he copy-pasted the exact same post at the same exact time on two different threads. That is not a person. It's a bot.
 

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Look at his posting history. He is not someone who joins our group wanting to talk about defense matters and then talking about current events such as the coronavirus pandemic. He is an account specifically created to spread misinformation about the coronavirus.
8. The Moderators have banned Atlantic Realm in the interim pending a decision on his long term fate in DT. Poor management of COVID-19 risks is resulting in 73,000 new cases in America — with the rate of increase rising. Denial and refusal to recognise risk is killing Americans at a record rate. On 24 Oct 2020, the number of new coronavirus infections in America at 77,640 is greater than the total number of infections in many countries.

9. Unlike idiots like US President Donald Trump and members of his administration who earlier refused to wear masks or touted the use of hydroxychloroquine (an anti-malarial drug) for the coronavirus, medicines like remdesivir and dexamethasone are proven effective at clinical trials. Dexamethasone, a commonly used corticosteroid, helps to dampen inflammation, as patients can develop severe disease due to overwhelming inflammation in the body that is triggered by the viral infection.

10. Singapore’s National Centre for Infectious Diseases (NCID), a purpose built 500 bed facility, collaborated with Gilead and the United States' National Institutes of Health for the remdesivir clinical trials.

(a) Explaining how the drugs work, Dr Lee Tau Hong, 39 said that remdesivir is an anti-viral agent that acts directly on the SARS-CoV-2 – the virus that causes COVID-19 – thus reducing the harmful effects of the disease — remdesivir shortened the average length of stay in the ICU for patients on the study.​

(b) "Eventually, we were proven right with the official release of the trial results, which showed remdesivir to be the first drug with proven efficacy against SARS-CoV-2," Dr Ray Lin Junhao, 37, an infectious disease consultant at Tan Tock Seng Hospital and NCID said.​
And guess what ? You’ve been breathing Covid all year ... and you’re still alive!
11. As with the other misinformation about the coronavirus you try to peddle, this is also factually untrue. Risk can be managed, even as the economy is being progressively opened up for business again. For example, Singapore will pilot pre-event testing from mid-October to December to identify a model that can be widely implemented so that more large-scale events can safely resume, announced Minister for Health Gan Kim Yong on Tuesday (Oct 20).

(a) This means that participants going to an event or activity will be tested either at the event venue or at a separate testing facility, and only participants who have tested negative in these Antigen rapid tests (ARTs) will be allowed to participate in the event.​

(b) Although polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests are currently used as the “definitive test” for confirming COVID-19 cases, the results take about one to two days, which is not feasible for pre-event testing.​

(c) The ART results will be valid for 24 hours from the time of the swab, and it must be valid at the point of entry until the end of the event, said MOH.​

12. Broadly, two modes of transmission of COVID-19 exist—direct and indirect.

(i) The direct mode includes (a) transmission via aerosols formed via surgical and dental procedures and/or in the form of respiratory droplet nuclei; (b) other body fluids and secretions, for example, feces, saliva, urine, semen, and tears; and (c) mother-to-child.​

(ii) Indirect transmission may occur via (a) fomites or surfaces (e.g., furniture and fixtures) present within the immediate environment of an infected patient and (b) objects used on the infected person (e.g., stethoscope or thermometer).​
 
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