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Do you think this might happen?
Yes, my understanding is USN ships must be built in US yards and it is the law. Not sure if a crisis would provide the political the will to change this requirement. As for the USN clicking "add to cart", their track record suggests this is unlikely.
Two ships built in Finland and four in the US. Ice breakers haven't been built in the US for years and offshore was the quickest option. As no local shipyard was able to proceed with the first two ships, an exemption for CG needs was easy. For naval ships, you are spot-on wrt political pressure against foreign builds.10 U.S. Code § 8679 - Construction of vessels in foreign shipyards: prohibition
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For the USN: 10 U.S. Code § 8679 - Construction of vessels in foreign shipyards: prohibition
For the USCG: 14 U.S.C. § 1151 - - Restriction on construction of vessels in foreign shipyards.
Just a question of whether the President wants to do so. We have one recent example of such exception, which is the order of ice breakers from Finland.
It is not just an legal issue, but I suspect a great deal of political pressure from lobby groups in the US would make it difficult for them to buy from non-US shipyards.
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One could almost suspect the BBG(x) nuclear propulsion specification was added as a poison pill to kill the project asap. The ballistic missile submarines are going to be SSGN I assume? Will these be derivatives of the Columbia class or VPM versions of the Virginia SSNs? Fifteen new SSGNs with 150-200 missiles each seems like a more realistic project.OK
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Now that I have that out of the way.
Currently planning to order 15 BBGNs starting 2028 thru 2055
Ship building plan thru 2055 (from article)
I'm also struck by the plans to order 57 DDGs, 79 FF(X), 60 Attack Submarines
Have to say I have no idea how much development time will be added by the nuclear power requirement
But it ain't getting built faster, that's for damn sure
Trump Class Battleships Will Be Nuclear Powered
Equipping the Trump class with nuclear propulsion presents benefits, but also massive challenges, and Navy officials had been pushing back against the idea.
No, the 9 ballistic missile submarines (sixth line) are going to be Columbia SSBNs, I assume followed later by the 7 guided missile submarines (seventh line) Columbia SSGN variants
That's some fantasy timeline and budget right there. The infrastructure today would be challenging to sustain that kind of build up, nevermind the budget.OK
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Now that I have that out of the way.
Currently planning to order 15 BBGNs starting 2028 thru 2055
Ship building plan thru 2055 (from article)
I'm also struck by the plans to order 57 DDGs, 79 FF(X), 60 Attack Submarines
With USS Georgia (SSGN 729) set to transition to the Submarine Recycling Program (SRP) later this year, USS Ohio (SSGN 726) next year, USS Florida (SSGN 728) in 2028 and finally USS Michigan (SSGN 727) in 2029 Block V Virginia's will effectively replace the Ohio SSGNs for likely around at least two decades until the future Columbia SSGNs reach operational status in numbers. Of course ordering the construction of the first replacement SSGN in 2038 is in reality a LONG way away. So I wouldn't place any significant wagers on it even happening
Agreed, adding nuclear propulsion effectively ensures steel will not be cut during the current presidents term. Or even his life if I were honest.
Isn't an SSN with VPM just another way of saying SSGN? This is where the traditional ship classification system(s) have not kept pace with technology and perhaps CONOPS
Assuming it arrives! It would be great to have all three navies aligned amd have a very large fleet instead of a fleet of 16 in addition to the virginias and SSNX
I.was thinking the SSGN would be a new build Colombia hull with a size and load out similar to the Ohios currently in service.
Certainly the missile load of a SSN with the VPM is decent but is still less than the SSGN Ohio. The SSBN Ohio class were much more quieter than the LA class SSNs. Whether a SSGN derivative of the Columbia class is quieter than a Virginia with a VPM is possible but is the extra cost worth it even with the extra missiles? A better option a Trump battle ship IMHO.
Sure a single SSGN variant of an SSBN will carry more missiles, but you can have more Virginia Block V's.