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[swerve]

rtic

Article in the telegraph about the Tempest fighter stating it will be very large, payload north of 30 thousand KG and a combat radius of over 1500 miles. Would the RAAF be interested? ‘She’s going to be big’: why Putin should fear Britain’s next fighter jet — The Telegraph.

The article says 'maximum takeoff weight could be “north of 30 tonnes", not payload. A payload that big would imply something bigger than a Vulcan.

 

[Bob53]

rtic

The article says 'maximum takeoff weight could be “north of 30 tonnes", not payload. A payload that big would imply something bigger than a Vulcan.

I was referencing this comment …

 

[Todjaeger]

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Might want to double check and re-read that comment. I cannot access the original article since it seems to be paywalled for me, but I found similar but not exactly the same commentary in a JP article found here.

I will quote the comment and Bold the section I feel important.

The Tempest will also likely have a maximum takeoff weight over 30 tonnes, compared to the Typhoon's 23 tonnes. "It is going to be in a completely different league to anything we have ever built," Francis Tusa, an independent defence analyst said.

There is a significant difference between stating an aircraft will have a MTOW of 30+ tonnes, vs. claiming a payload capacity of 30+ tonnes.

Given the reference to the EF Typhoon, as near a I can tell, the max payload is around 9,000 kg with an overall Typhoon MTOW of ~23,500 kg.

Again, not being able to see the originally linked article makes it difficult, but I am right now suspecting either typos were involved, or else editors/copyists that had NFI what they were about changing words around without realizing that they would significantly change the meaning.

 

[the road runner]

A B52 Bomber can carry around 32,000 KG worth of bombs. Thats 32 ton approx.. Let that sink in
Anyhow this is a RAAF page.

 

[old faithful]

Strap a himars under each wing of a tempest would give you @32000kg lol

 

[Todjaeger]

A B52 Bomber can carry around 32,000 KG worth of bombs. Thats 32 ton approx.. Let that sink in
Anyhow this is a RAAF page.

Absolutely this is an RAAF thread, though discussion on the potential for additional or alternate aircraft to fill possible RAAF roles makes sense, as would discussion on the potential capabilities for those aircraft.

Having said all that though, something else for people to let sink in. The MTOW for an F-35A is ~29,900 kg or just under 30 tonnes, which then should lead into questions about the capability differences between Tempest and the Lightning II.

 

[Aardvark144]

From the article - 'Based on reports, Tusa says Tempest’s maximum takeoff weight could be “north of 30 tonnes” compared to Typhoon’s 23 tonnes.' Definitely not payload.

 

[StevoJH]

Absolutely this is an RAAF thread, though discussion on the potential for additional or alternate aircraft to fill possible RAAF roles makes sense, as would discussion on the potential capabilities for those aircraft.

Having said all that though, something else for people to let sink in. The MTOW for an F-35A is ~29,900 kg or just under 30 tonnes, which then should lead into questions about the capability differences between Tempest and the Lightning II.

if I had to guess. 20 years of further development of electronic architecture, not being restricted by US ITAR legislation, support of local industry.

The F-35 is a monster of an aircraft, I think people assume it is small because of the single engine. But that single engine puts out more power then both engines on a Typhoon combined.

 

[Morgo]

if I had to guess. 20 years of further development of electronic architecture, not being restricted by US ITAR legislation, support of local industry.

The F-35 is a monster of an aircraft, I think people assume it is small because of the single engine. But that single engine puts out more power then both engines on a Typhoon combined.

Yes to be honest I am struggling to see the massive benefit for the ADF in the Tempest.

If we want something with more range and payload, why not the F15EX? Or the B21, if we’re allowed?