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Nighthawk.NZ

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Comparing to the pictures posted on your own site there are a few inaccuracies with the NZ ship:
it still has it's Mk 41 VLS (no Sea Ceptor VLS), it's missing the satcom and missile datalink domes on top of the bridge, it has SRBOC launchers fitted in front of the bridge, the CESM antenna and the Elisra ESM antenna are incorrect.
. You making sound like I designed them...lol not even lol....

Any who I noticed that well... they are not official or anything. My guess someone drew them up to make a few bob here and there. They are probably to use in some game or something etc....
 
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I wonder if there was consideration given to another longer-term deployment of an IPV to Fiji before COVID threw a spanner in the works?
The inherent problem is that they're Inshore Patrol Vessels, and getting from Auckland to Fiji - and back again - involves a long ocean passage, definitely not Inshore. Planning such a voyage requires careful study of long range weather forecasts, examination of chicken entrails and sacrificing a couple of virgins [OK, I did exaggerate a teeny bit :)] before committing to go. This makes departing and arriving on a specific future date very difficult to manage, and the voyage itself is likely to make the lucky CO's blood pressure elevated until they are safely in the lee of their destination.
That's a major reason why the IPVs are not long for this world with the RNZN, they are just barely suitable for use in coastal NZ waters, and even then there are big parts where there are no suitable ports (or none at all) to run to if the weather turns nasty. For example a trip to the Chathams is nearly as hard to plan as a trip to Fiji; and a transit from Nelson to Milford Sound has only shooting the bar at Greymouth or Westport as very questionable boltholes

Just my $0.02
 

ngatimozart

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The inherent problem is that they're Inshore Patrol Vessels, and getting from Auckland to Fiji - and back again - involves a long ocean passage, definitely not Inshore. Planning such a voyage requires careful study of long range weather forecasts, examination of chicken entrails and sacrificing a couple of virgins [OK, I did exaggerate a teeny bit :)] before committing to go. This makes departing and arriving on a specific future date very difficult to manage, and the voyage itself is likely to make the lucky CO's blood pressure elevated until they are safely in the lee of their destination.
That's a major reason why the IPVs are not long for this world with the RNZN, they are just barely suitable for use in coastal NZ waters, and even then there are big parts where there are no suitable ports (or none at all) to run to if the weather turns nasty. For example a trip to the Chathams is nearly as hard to plan as a trip to Fiji; and a transit from Nelson to Milford Sound has only shooting the bar at Greymouth or Westport as very questionable boltholes

Just my $0.02
When I was on IPCs shooting the bar at Westport or Greymouth was interesting at the best of times, but not done during a northerly. On those occasions it was back to the fleshpot of Nelson. Sacrificing virgins??? Where in the hell in all of NZ did you find a virgin? :D
 

Nighthawk.NZ

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When I was on IPCs shooting the bar at Westport or Greymouth was interesting at the best of times, but not done during a northerly. On those occasions it was back to the fleshpot of Nelson. Sacrificing virgins??? Where in the hell in all of NZ did you find a virgin? :D
Ahhhh the IPC's and Westport and Greymouth them were the days... getting yah tot issue at the end of tour sometimes 3 or 4 2.5ltr coke bottles full then sneaking them off base... them were the days... wait what were we talking about again...
 
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ngatimozart

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What are they then replacing the ipv role with?
At present nothing. I presume that the OPVs will pick it up.
Certainly not among the sheep flock. :D
You just gotta remember to put their back legs in your gumboots so that they can't run away. An Aussie farmer told me that and he was speaking from experience :p
 

swerve

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When I was on IPCs shooting the bar at Westport or Greymouth was interesting at the best of times, but not done during a northerly. On those occasions it was back to the fleshpot of Nelson. Sacrificing virgins??? Where in the hell in all of NZ did you find a virgin? :D
One fleshpot? Sounds like a very exciting place. :(
 

Stampede

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At present nothing. I presume that the OPVs will pick it up.

You just gotta remember to put their back legs in your gumboots so that they can't run away. An Aussie farmer told me that and he was speaking from experience :p
I do recollect, the sheep around Waiouru were referred to as "Waiouru blondes". :rolleyes:

Regards S
 

ngatimozart

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One fleshpot? Sounds like a very exciting place. :(
There were plenty more, but it's the old adage of it's not what you know but who you know. :D
Baaaaah....Baaaaah!
During the summer Nelson is a very popular spot for holiday makers and more shelia's than you can chuck a stick at. Not many sheep up that way because they grow a lot of hops for beer and a couple of really good breweries. Fair few hippies live up that way too.
I do recollect, the sheep around Waiouru were referred to as "Waiouru blondes". :rolleyes:

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Yes they were and probably still are. I am sure fondly remembered by many a soldier :p:D
 

Shanesworld

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There were plenty more, but it's the old adage of it's not what you know but who you know. :D

During the summer Nelson is a very popular spot for holiday makers and more shelia's than you can chuck a stick at. Not many sheep up that way because they grow a lot of hops for beer and a couple of really good breweries. Fair few hippies live up that way too.

Yes they were and probably still are. I am sure fondly remembered by many a soldier :p:D
Waiouru gets very cold.
 

RegR

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The inherent problem is that they're Inshore Patrol Vessels, and getting from Auckland to Fiji - and back again - involves a long ocean passage, definitely not Inshore. Planning such a voyage requires careful study of long range weather forecasts, examination of chicken entrails and sacrificing a couple of virgins [OK, I did exaggerate a teeny bit :)] before committing to go. This makes departing and arriving on a specific future date very difficult to manage, and the voyage itself is likely to make the lucky CO's blood pressure elevated until they are safely in the lee of their destination.
That's a major reason why the IPVs are not long for this world with the RNZN, they are just barely suitable for use in coastal NZ waters, and even then there are big parts where there are no suitable ports (or none at all) to run to if the weather turns nasty. For example a trip to the Chathams is nearly as hard to plan as a trip to Fiji; and a transit from Nelson to Milford Sound has only shooting the bar at Greymouth or Westport as very questionable boltholes

Just my $0.02
An easy soloution to that then would be to just permanently base an IPC in the Islands and rotate the crews via RNZAF/civi flights for operation. Cut the middle man transit out all together so then what we spend in AVTUR we save in bunker fuel as either way we would either have an IPC parked here or there gathering barnacles so no real difference other than location (I can see the IPVs being like the redundant skyhawks and excess NZLAVs of the sea if you get my drift...)
 
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