I vaguely recall reading one major section was floated from Russia to France to be completed because the Russian yards weren't capable of doing the work up to scratch in the given time.
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In time, and in price limits, certainly not. In principle, maybe.
By whom? NATO, well yes. But then there's the nuclear stick. Which is the only way Russia can handle NATO. Mistrals or no Mistrals. Everyone else though? Not so easy. Especially not if they're properly escorted. For example, could Ukraine or Georgia easily eliminate a Mistral? I doubt it. Ukrainian coastal missile units are in shambles, maritime strike capability is non-existent, and aerial recon is extremely limited, for example. And of course I don't see Somalian pirates doing much to a Mistral. This about summs up the roster of maritime threats Russia is realistically going to handle with these sorts of means.
I was referring to the uproar over the French selling them on - they're no threat to a NATO allied country is my point. They're no real additional threat to any country they could approach with impunity - if the Russians are in a position to use a Mistral in an amphib role, they likely have superiority in the air and sea I'd be guessing.
You could say the same for Australia, France, the US, or basically anyone who operates this type of vessel.
I don't know about additional threat in principle but it does make it easier for Russia to do the things it does. As Russian command stated, they could have completed their amphibious operations in the Georgian war much much easier had they a Mistral. This is not to say that the outcome would have changed.
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Article relating to broader impact on Russian Navy rearmament plans through this crisis and sanctions. Seems to be minor overall
Sanctions Will Hurt Russia's Rearmament Plans | Opinion | The Moscow Times
Small update yesterday from Anatoly Isaikin (Rosoboronexport head) w.r.t the Mistrals.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russia-won-t-pay-for-french-mistral-warships-until-second-delivered/505012.html
ToT still doesn't sound fully clear to me, regardless of Isaikin's comments
Sanctions Will Hurt Russia's Rearmament Plans | Opinion | The Moscow Times
Small update yesterday from Anatoly Isaikin (Rosoboronexport head) w.r.t the Mistrals.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russia-won-t-pay-for-french-mistral-warships-until-second-delivered/505012.html
ToT still doesn't sound fully clear to me, regardless of Isaikin's comments
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The first Varshavyanka-class submarine was formally accepted by the Russian navy. It will be assigned to the BSF. The second one is to follow by the end of this year.
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Sandhi Yudha
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At last, Russia's first Project 636! A great moment for the Black Sea Fleet!
And the second coming soon......
Thanks for sharing!
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Some brief updates from media outlets (both sides) regarding Mistral
ITAR-TASS: Economy - No obstacles for Mistral supplies to Russia
Fresh Ukraine tension sparks questions over French warship sale to Russia | Business Recorder
Ignoring for a moment the huge comp factor, hadn't really considered the current Rafale deal to India as a problem, but raises a good point. Tough decision for France if this crisis worsens.
Understand Sevastopol is under initial trials in the Bay of Biscay currently.
ITAR-TASS: Economy - No obstacles for Mistral supplies to Russia
Fresh Ukraine tension sparks questions over French warship sale to Russia | Business Recorder
Ignoring for a moment the huge comp factor, hadn't really considered the current Rafale deal to India as a problem, but raises a good point. Tough decision for France if this crisis worsens.
Understand Sevastopol is under initial trials in the Bay of Biscay currently.
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Just announced - First delivery (Sevastapol) is now 'on hold' and October delivery delayed, according to French presdential office. France puts Mistral warship delivery to Russia on hold | News | DW.DE | 03.09.2014
Russia Tests Nuclear Missile
Another successful test launch of the Bulava. Putin, Lavrov and Shoigu are all smiles im sure considering Putins references to Russian nuclear arsenal these past few weeks. Further launches set for October and November so we'll see how far the programs come
Another successful test launch of the Bulava. Putin, Lavrov and Shoigu are all smiles im sure considering Putins references to Russian nuclear arsenal these past few weeks. Further launches set for October and November so we'll see how far the programs come
Two Project 971/Akulas of the PACFLT are being transported together to Severodvinsk for modernization using the Northern Sea Route. It's apparently the first time two have been transported at a time.
The project 956 Rastoporniy has been pulled out of long term dock, and is being taken somewhere. It's unclear whether it will be cut up for scrap or modernized.
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Sandhi Yudha
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Thanks for sharing the link, still a good looking ship.
Decommissioned 5 years ago in 2009 wasn't it?
Many project 956s are already retired and as far as i know none of them are modernized. So its likely that it will be scrapped.....
Its time that the Admiral Gorshkov-class frigates will entering service!
The cannon for the first Gorshkov has just arrived, so we may see this long term project finally reach a serial production status. There is the engine question though, since Zarya has suspended deliveries on Russian MoD contracts and Saturn is years away from producing something comparable.
Isnt Zarya in Mariupol?... They may still get those engines depending on the settlment conditions with DPR.
Can't the russians offer citizinship and higher pay for ukrainian experts in the defense industry? Many are already in russian speaking areas.