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Cadredave

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
I'm sure the NZ Treasury used exactly the same logic and vetoed any expensive air-conditioning in any Treasury offices in Wellington or Auckland right? I mean it must be a small percentage of summer days that need any AC anyway in lovey NZ, right?

For that matter, it's only a small percentage of people that need to go to the bathroom in any workday, so why not cut those from their offices as well?

I am constantly astounded to hear of the influence that treasury and finance has over a nation's defence.
This is nothing new, Ron Mark as Defence Minister had the same battle with the C130J-30 & P8 as well as convincing his Cabinet of the dire need to replace like with like.
 

SamB

New Member
Why ? Type 31 cost effective not fix armaments (modular) UK, Indonesia,Poland and think Denmark and even Chile looking at version.
My argument is that Australia is already doing the U.K. a massive favour and coping a lot of flack for it. For me I'd rather strengthen ties with Australia rather than persue the latest most optimal solution or something like that.
 

Warhawk

Member
Why would you want Australian at moment sub's going know where fast. Type 26 frigates over budget cut back on numbers and OPV in the same boat . I don't believe Australia and NZ should have all eggs in one basket and NZ could find a niche in defence of Pacific with small modular patrol frigates that can fill a few different tasks but must 4 frigates if we in the real game anything else just a joke when comes to defence of NZ and interests.
 

SamB

New Member
Why would you want Australian at moment sub's going know where fast. Type 26 frigates over budget cut back on numbers and OPV in the same boat . I don't believe Australia and NZ should have all eggs in one basket and NZ could find a niche in defence of Pacific with small modular patrol frigates that can fill a few different tasks but must 4 frigates if we in the real game anything else just a joke when comes to defence of NZ and interests.
If it is true that the Rules-Based Order is being desecrated, our closest ally should have priority. The Mogami ain't terrible enough to make us look for another supplier. With petrol at $3 per litre and no possible way of going back in time to a benign strategic environment, the good times are over and the decisions are going to get way, way trickier. I just believe that the friendship Australia and New Zealand have will be a greater benefit. And there is going to be production problems or whatever. Marine Diesel is not priced for sympathy, and the sea is patient, having a warship builder 2000 km away has to be way more preferable, and Australian strategic oil reserves are way ahead of NZ. I know in a benign environment, New Zealand had to magnify their decisions so greatly that it made us look more important on paper, and most of all I know everyone here wants the best for NZDF, but just buy Australian.
 
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