And since we'll have at most two carriers operating, & probably usually only one, neither can the UK rely on carrier-based ASW helicopters.
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Second of class AOPV, future HMCS Margaret Brooke 431, on her ice trials (courtesy the Irving Shipbuilding Twitter feed). The third ship, the future HMCS Max Bernays 432, is in the water pier side at Halifax Shipyard completing fit up, and will be delivered to the RCN later this year.
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So explain then what carrier-based ASW does that SVTTs do instead.
Because they are simply not the same tools, and to see them used together is...worrying, to put it mildly.
There does not appear to be a discussion of ASW tactics by professionals going on here, else we would be discussing the layered approach in more detail. I’m not in ASW either (Assail is) but it is a game in which more than one platform, sensor and weapons system have to play to have some chance of success unless you yourself are a submarine. Those designing the CSC, and indeed all the T26 variants are however professionals, advised as to capability requirements by professionals in that field. I’m not sure this, or any other Internet forum, is going to give you a particular thorough or measured critique of their decisions which is factually based,
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I simply quoted Underway to illustrate that your assumption that, "the Canadians plan to use...OTSTs..for offensive ASW? OTSTs?", because, "he talked instead of helicopters", was mistaken.
But I used to be. See the blue banner under my name.
I'm certainly not just asking these questions from the baseline of "Internet rando". I'm way more than that.
I could tell you all about the NATO “layered” approach from 40 years ago and I’m sure the same principles apply.
1. Fixed wing ASW and SSNs well ahead of the High Value Targets.
2. Rotary wing ASW at an intermediate distance.
3. Surface escorts screening within12,000yds.
Ship launched torpedoes are a “Hail Mary” weapon similar to a CIWS in the AA mode.
But I’m sure most of you know this already.
I got that you were a USN SWO or enlisted from your handle. For reasons best known to the mods I don’t have a blue label, but I have been in the mob for the last 56 years, and for about 7 of those until I went blind I, too, was an RAN upper deck type. What I was suggesting was that you were/are unlikely to get a reasoned response from the net on why SLTs are being retained, or of their pros and cons.
I haven't seen a thread for the Canadian Coast Guard, so I'm posting this here. Details are starting to come out on the 15 multi-purpose vessels (MPV) that the CCG is planning to introduce. These are built as ice-breakers, and are rated as PC4+
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It's because you were dragged up through the hawse pipe that we have neglected you
I will see what I can do.looks very much like ther Vard 9 201I haven't seen a thread for the Canadian Coast Guard, so I'm posting this here. Details are starting to come out on the 15 multi-purpose vessels (MPV) that the CCG is planning to introduce. These are built as ice-breakers, and are rated as PC4+
Multi-Purpose Vessels - Seaspan
John Fedup
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Irving is currently working on AOPS 4 and 5 with 6,7 and 8 still to come. Probably 2026 or later for start of first CSC. A CSC will likely be the last T26 variant into the water sometime post 2030.
HaroldBloggins
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Once AOPS is concluded the assembly hall needs to be raised and lengthened to accommodate the CSC. You should see test modules being built prior to 2026.
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Hopefully that is the case. It’s only 3 2/3 years to finish the 5 remaining AOPS. Assuming ship 4 and 5 are completed this year, can Irving produce 3 AOPS by 2026? That’s one ship per year. If so then perhaps by the 3 CSC, the production rate may allow decent completion date for the CSC program.
There was an interview on CDR with Kevin Moonie, President of Irving, and "first steel cut" is scheduled for 2024. However, test blocks will start next year, and possibly even late this year. A friend who works on the project for PSPC told me they have been tasked with looking for ways to speed up the process even further, including building modules in another shipyard, and building one or two AOPS in another shipyard.
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It's expected the GoC is going to announce a significant budget increase, to bring Canada closer to the 2% GDP NATO expectation. If that transpires, it means at least $10Billion more a year of funding. The DND is apparently quite concerned it will struggle to spend all that extra windfall. Several pundits in Canadian defence periodicals have suggested that the RCN could benefit by getting a third JSS, approval for the Sub replacement program, and a new class of OPVs to replace the Kingston class. Recruitement and retention would also being targeted.
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Now that junior has jumped into bed with the NDP thus preventing an election for another three years, the chances of defence getting 2% of GDP is remote. NDP wants Pharma care and dental care which will add to the mountain of debt created by junior. Where is he going to get another $10 billion per year for defence considering the already massive annual deficits his government has been running since he took office?
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