Royal Australian Air Force [RAAF] News, Discussions and Updates

seaspear

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Interesting post from Warzone with the U.S Poseidon deploying a radar system capable of being lowered past engines to increase coverage ,the picture was taken by a Russian pilot over the Black Sea, naturally first thoughts are of advantages to the R.A.A.F for its own Poseidon aircraft in having such a radar
 

AndyinOz

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I suspect that the RAAF has had a pretty good look at it for a while now, mention was made of it being used on aircraft during Talisman Sabre 2025, ( Record Talisman Sabre exercise | The Australian Naval Institute ) though I am sure it was fairly well known about even before then since the first flight of it was notified back in 2015. ( https://www.navair.navy.mil/node/16226 ) it is interesting to see it deployed like that away from the body of the aircraft I imagine that helps the apparently double sided AESA radar give 360 degree or near enough coverage of the airspace. TWZ made mention of the system back in 2020 but there wasn't any images of it deployed away from the fuselage like that. (Navy P-8 With Secretive Radar Pod Surveils Massive Chinese Naval Base In South China Sea)
 

Tbone

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Will block 3 ghost bats be just a larger aircraft or a complete redesign? Am I right by saying black 3 will be the the first real production version and be produce on mass for the RAAF?
 

SammyC

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Will block 3 ghost bats be just a larger aircraft or a complete redesign? Am I right by saying black 3 will be the the first real production version and be produce on mass for the RAAF?
I can't imagine a block 3 would be a complete redesign, the block 2 seems to work well.

It kind of indicates the potential for a limited production run of the smaller block 2 ISR MQ28s as they currently are, alongside the development of a larger framed block 3 with a weapons bay for prototype testing.

Note the new Boeing factory in Toowoomba is not supposed to be online until 2027, so there is ample time for another couple of prototype blocks before mass production can be physically undertaken.

I will note, there is a lot that has not been shown or tested in regards to the MQ28. We have not for instance seen it paired with an F35 or FA18 and actually utilised as a forward ISR scout. Additionally while it has been paired with an E7, again we have not seen it actually utilised to expand the E7's sensor range and function as an integrated system.

I think there is a big step from developing a platform that can conduct basic flying (navigation, crash avoidance) and communication with a host aircraft (where we are now), and one that can be given a tasking to autonomously carry out a mission.

I think there is still a lot to do.
 
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MARKMILES77

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More GhostBat News:

GhostBat has been offered to Poland in a combined deal with the F15-EX.

Boeing Defence has released a CGI video of GhostBats supporting F15-EXs on a mission, which likely reveals some of the Block III capabilities.
Looks like Block III may have the ability to be refueled in the air and will carry Two AIM 120-Ds internally.
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The War Zone has a good overview of all this GhostBat news:
 

hauritz

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More GhostBat News:

GhostBat has been offered to Poland in a combined deal with the F15-EX.

Boeing Defence has released a CGI video of GhostBats supporting F15-EXs on a mission, which likely reveals some of the Block III capabilities.
Looks like Block III may have the ability to be refueled in the air and will carry Two AIM 120-Ds internally.
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The War Zone has a good overview of all this GhostBat news:
Australia could do quite well with Ghost Bat. It is a rapidly maturing system at a time when a lot of countries will be looking at off the shelf solutions that can be bought into service quickly. Its main competitors would seem to be Anduril and General Atomic but neither of those companies have the experience Boeing possesses and their projects are running years behind the Ghost Bat.
 

Reptilia

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More GhostBat News:

GhostBat has been offered to Poland in a combined deal with the F15-EX.

Boeing Defence has released a CGI video of GhostBats supporting F15-EXs on a mission, which likely reveals some of the Block III capabilities.
Looks like Block III may have the ability to be refueled in the air and will carry Two AIM 120-Ds internally.
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The War Zone has a good overview of all this GhostBat news:
Very cool, doesn’t show the new wing design though.
 

hauritz

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More GhostBat News:

GhostBat has been offered to Poland in a combined deal with the F15-EX.

Boeing Defence has released a CGI video of GhostBats supporting F15-EXs on a mission, which likely reveals some of the Block III capabilities.
Looks like Block III may have the ability to be refueled in the air and will carry Two AIM 120-Ds internally.
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The War Zone has a good overview of all this GhostBat news:
Something I noticed. Putting aside the impractibility of a touch screen display in a fighter, the video does seem to indicate that you do need some sort of mission controller in the backseat. Not a problem for the Growlers and Rhinos, or even aircraft such as the Wedgetail and Poseidon but you have to wonder about aircraft such as the F-35. I couldn't find information as to whether or not 6th gen fighter such as the F-47 or GCAP fighters will have two seats or will rely on some sort of virtual assistant to take workload off the pilot. Of course the more autonomous aircraft you have the more complex battle management becomes.
 

Going Boeing

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This Breaking Defense article indicates that Lockheed’s proposal for an upgraded “Ferrari“ F-35 fitted with a number of 6th Generation systems is gaining traction in Washington & US Defence circles and this could have implications as a potential replacement for the RAAF’s Rhinos & Growlers - the timing should work well to obtain a replacement type that is a significant increase in capability but have some commonality with the existing F-35 fleet. I understand that the RAAF still has options on 28 more F-35’s so it would be great to take delivery of them in the Ferrari version.

“Of the about 2,300 F-35s yet to be delivered to the jet’s customer base, Taiclet estimated that anywhere from 1,000 to 1,500 aircraft could be delivered as the “fifth-gen plus” version, even if export restrictions prohibit international buyers from being able to purchase that configuration. Upgrades for those jets could include new weapons, an improved stealth coating and potentially a more advanced engine, he said”

Some of these systems could potentially be retrofitted to the existing F-35’s as part of a mid-life upgrade thus increasing commonality and decreasing logistics costs.
 
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