Pakistan Air Force [PAF] News and Discussions

PakShaheen79

New Member
Just a general reminder that one liner posts are to be avoided with some exceptions made such as thanking a member for information or similar, and that re-posting an article without any personal input (or a one liner) at all is not considered good form. Hope this gets across the expectations for everyone in the thread,
Wanted to post the link only but as I am new and have very few posts so can't post the link. Thanks any how for reminding me the forum guidelines.
 

Toblerone

Banned Member
Is it worth it to keep spending money to develop the JF-17, why don't they replace their older aircraft with a steady stream of SU-30? Does the JF-17 have some advantage when it comes to ground attack?

I have seen that they have not succeeded in exporting the Thunder and China itself has not bought it.

I'm not sure why they are so keen in getting F-16s, they may be left without support if there is any future escalation.
 

ADMk2

Just a bloke
Staff member
Verified Defense Pro
Is it worth it to keep spending money to develop the JF-17, why don't they replace their older aircraft with a steady stream of SU-30? Does the JF-17 have some advantage when it comes to ground attack?

I have seen that they have not succeeded in exporting the Thunder and China itself has not bought it.

I'm not sure why they are so keen in getting F-16s, they may be left without support if there is any future escalation.
About the only advantage is that Pakistan can purchase 3-4x JF-17's for each SU-30 it can buy and it needs numbers... Not to mention the JF-17 being significantly manufactured in Pakistan gives them a strategic 'hedge' in case of diplomatic relations with aircraft suppiers heading 'south'.

The JF-17 may not have been exported in significant numbers, though there are many nations reportedly interested in it.

F-16 is a known capability. Advanced Block 52 aircraft are more or less a match qualitatively with anything else flying in that region, with an assured upgrade path thanks to the F-16V configuration and diversification of suppliers (ie: US, China and Russia) provides a further strategic hedge.

F-16 and SU-30/35 if purchased will provide a qualitative 'backbone' for the PAF for many years to come, with a wider roll out of upgraded JF-17 Thunders to flesh out squadron numbers for the PAF.

On face value it appears a good strategy.
 

Incog_Nito

New Member
Is PAF still looking to shop for Mirage IIIs and Vs for Airframe and Engine Spares?

I guess they might find some good deal as most ex-operators have put them in storage, I guess.
 

SABRE

Super Moderator
Verified Defense Pro
Is PAF still looking to shop for Mirage IIIs and Vs for Airframe and Engine Spares?

I guess they might find some good deal as most ex-operators have put them in storage, I guess.
PAF was looking into Egyptian Mirage-Vs but the deal seems to have hit a snag. The objective for buying them old Mirages is a) cannibalise them to keep the existing ROSE upgrades afloat, b) if they are anything like Egyptian Horus, use them alongside the ROSE Mirages for at least 5 or 6 years. Mirage retirement plan seem to have been delayed to fill in the gap left by the discontinuation of JF-17 Block II production in anticipation of Block III. It might take at least 5-6 years to acquire a sufficient number of Block IIIs. I guess, apart from Egyptian Horus, all other Mirage-V around the globe may only be worth cannibalising, provided they still have something worth cannibalising left in them.
 
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