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Shanesworld said:
Although....cough cough.... 5/7 shooting team beat 1st and 2/1 with the old sights versus the RF with ACOG's. But that was probably more to do with the coaching talent. Cough cough...
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Correct Shane good old fashioned coaching and applying the fundamentals of good ole Infantry skills like how to give a basic fire control order does actually work being an ex Cadre NCO of 5WWCT I had a great time rubbing the salt into the two RF Bn WO & SNCO and CO/RSM...made my day
 
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Recently, eight Royal New Zealand Artillery (RNZA) gunners attended a training course on the the Primus, self-propelled howitzer, in preparation for the upcoming Ex Thunder Warrior. For more pictures on Facebook go to this link: Thundering As One: RNZA and SAF Gunners Train Together. Looks like the RNZA guys had lots of fun in Singapore!

In other news, I waiting for NZDF's tri-service exercise, Ex. Southern Katipo to start in November 2013 (with coalition participation), which should be interesting. [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxViNoKaixE"]Trailer - Exercise Southern Katipo - YouTube[/nomedia]
 
I've been thinking about those 20 odd NZLAVs that the NZG want to sell. I was wondering if instead that some, say 12 be used as SP guns. Pity we couldn't mount the Oto Melera 76mm because of the ammo that it can use such as Vulcano. Anyway the US Army has the M1128 Stryker Mobile Gun System using a rifled 105mm gun with an auto loader on a Stryker (LAV III) chassis. I am not necessarilly advocating that system for NZ but maybe use the 105mm howitzer instead and not necessarilly use the automatic loader. Just an idea and one that could be complimentary to the M119 Light Guns that are currently used.
 
ngatimozart said:
I've been thinking about those 20 odd NZLAVs that the NZG want to sell. I was wondering if instead that some, say 12 be used as SP guns. Pity we couldn't mount the Oto Melera 76mm because of the ammo that it can use such as Vulcano. Anyway the US Army has the M1128 Stryker Mobile Gun System using a rifled 105mm gun with an auto loader on a Stryker (LAV III) chassis. I am not necessarilly advocating that system for NZ but maybe use the 105mm howitzer instead and not necessarilly use the automatic loader. Just an idea and one that could be complimentary to the M119 Light Guns that are currently used.
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All ready done NG have a look at this system, Gotta love those South Africans
[ame="http://www.scribd.com/doc/83167552/Denel-G7-105mm-SPG"]Denel G7 105mm_SPG[/ame]
 
ngatimozart said:
I've been thinking about those 20 odd NZLAVs that the NZG want to sell. I was wondering if instead that some, say 12 be used as SP guns. Pity we couldn't mount the Oto Melera 76mm because of the ammo that it can use such as Vulcano. Anyway the US Army has the M1128 Stryker Mobile Gun System using a rifled 105mm gun with an auto loader on a Stryker (LAV III) chassis. I am not necessarilly advocating that system for NZ but maybe use the 105mm howitzer instead and not necessarilly use the automatic loader. Just an idea and one that could be complimentary to the M119 Light Guns that are currently used.
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A while back ago a friend of mine and I played round with a twin barreled 76mm LAV thing using a CAD program called Solidworks. Idea was to combine AA, light Antitank, light SPG into a all rounder vehicle. COG issues arose but more skilled engineers would make it work.
But even using the same Cat powerplant as the NZLAV and similiar drive train we reckoned we had volume.
We had access to basic drawings but for a rough enough concept exercise it looked good and still had something like 74 ready rounds in the turret bustle.
But that Denel system looks the business.

Complete departure, away with the TF last weekend and a few of us were brain farting. We came to a concept for a belt fed light machine launcher. Something feeding low pressure 40mm in say 10 rnd belts firing open bolt with flechette, solid (I think it exists), HE and smoke in a package kind reminiscent of a C9 para type thing with a 203 barrel and recoil operated?
Anyones thoughts? Be useful in a section of platoon orbat? Not saying I'll try and make one. I couldn't and STG scare the crap out of me. But would this bring enough to justify itself? I am thinking of the Chinese Type 87 as an equivalent but more in line with LSW 7.62/C9 in training. Anyway what do you reckon?
 
Shanesworld said:
Complete departure, away with the TF last weekend and a few of us were brain farting. We came to a concept for a belt fed light machine launcher. Something feeding low pressure 40mm in say 10 rnd belts firing open bolt with flechette, solid (I think it exists), HE and smoke in a package kind reminiscent of a C9 para type thing with a 203 barrel and recoil operated?
Anyones thoughts? Be useful in a section of platoon orbat? Not saying I'll try and make one. I couldn't and STG scare the crap out of me. But would this bring enough to justify itself? I am thinking of the Chinese Type 87 as an equivalent but more in line with LSW 7.62/C9 in training. Anyway what do you reckon?
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Why not just use these? [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milkor_MGL"]Milkor MGL - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
At the heavier end, we allready have these: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_GMG"]Heckler & Koch GMG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Cheers
 
Cadredave said:
All ready done NG have a look at this system, Gotta love those South Africans
Denel G7 105mm_SPG
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Not bad. They do have the ability to come up with unique solutions. Something to do with arms bans etc., in the day. That 155mm they built was very impressive.

A bit of R Lee Emery. The Lock and Load episode on AFVs. At around the 36 minute mark (IIRC) he starts on the Striker which he thinks is a gunnys wet dream. Doesn't mention that it's a Canuck vehicle. Anyway gunny likes shooting things and the Stryker he's let loose with is the one at the US Army Abderdeen proving ground that has the 105mm gun on it. has good video of the gun operation both inside and out. Noticed that every time it fired the front feet of the Stryker lifted off the ground. Impressive though.

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPIE5k2lwHY"]Lock 'n Load with R. Lee Ermey - 06 Armored Vehicles - HD - YouTube[/nomedia]
 
Ocean1Curse said:
'Poor' SAS soldiers used discarded US gear, court martial told - National - NZ Herald News

After reading the above article titled, 'Poor' SAS soldiers used discarded US gear, court martial told.

I am stuck for words.

From further down the article it says:

"The accused soldier had earlier given evidence about spending US$15,000 on his own kit while serving in Afghanistan, including body armour and charging handles for his rifles".

REALY!!!!!!!
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The Herald doesn't like NZDF. Secondly, we weren't there so we don't know what happened literally. Thirdly, said soldier only broke one rule & that was getting caught. Fourthly, I would think that there is far more to this than meets the eye. Fifthly, he's been found guilty on theft of stealing two JPoint sights and a charging handle for a military rifle and fined $4700.00,keeping his career in the Army.
SAS soldier found guilty - National - NZ Herald News
 
ngatimozart said:
The Herald doesn't like NZDF. Secondly, we weren't there so we don't know what happened literally. Thirdly, said soldier only broke one rule & that was getting caught. Fourthly, I would think that there is far more to this than meets the eye. Fifthly, he's been found guilty on theft of stealing two JPoint sights and a charging handle for a military rifle and fined $4700.00,keeping his career in the Army.
SAS soldier found guilty - National - NZ Herald News
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I really don't like the accusation of. SAS or any other service person, having to spend his own money to equip ones self. Me thinks the CDF should tell any pollie, who wants to deploy troops, to foxtrot oscar right off, till they get him Ngati's shopping list.
 
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Ocean1Curse said:
I really don't like the accusation of. SAS or any other service person, having to spend his own money to equip ones self. Me thinks the CDF should tell any pollie, who wants to deploy troops, to fuck right off, till they get him Ngati's shopping list.
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Manners and language mate. Certain words that maybe used in the common venacular are not appreciated in here including the one you used. Whilst we may think that, we word it differently here.
 
Ocean1Curse said:
I really don't like the accusation of. SAS or any other service person, having to spend his own money to equip ones self. Me thinks the CDF should tell any pollie, who wants to deploy troops, to fuck right off, till they get him Ngati's shopping list.
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Soldiers will buy their own kit no matter how good the issued stuff is. It's just personal preference, and trying to be a bit different to everyone else. The fact that someone spends lots of dollars to buy their own kit doesn't necessarily mean the issued stuff is lacking of no good - just that the soldier is willing to spend their own money to get exactly what they want.
 
And the world have moved on since WW2. When soldiers had to use their own money to equip themselves. When soldiers didn't have to argue with LT so and so in order to be evacuated by sea. When a nation didn't equip it's army adequately enough in order to not get wiped out endlessly.

Now we have a situation where if a kiwi, attached to the UN, requesting urgent med evac, has to wait for a UN general assembly to convene, in order to have the appropriate resources committed.

It's inspiring to think that the individual service person, can over come challenges, not of there job description. It's also annoying, that the average civilian, aren't aware, of the pressure they put one our services. By not making an informed vote. In an information abundant society.

I myself have spent the past 10 years in Australia. And feel I am more clued up, on defence issues, than my family in NZ.

My nane's and aunties where worrying. About the coming TPPA. And had asked if there where any good points about it. To which I replied.

"One of the problems New Zealand has in not signing up to the TPPA. Are defence issues. New Zealand has adopted a tokenistic view towards defence procurement, this means New Zealand must cozy up to it's bigger alies in order to maintain peace in the region through trade. Poor maori's didn't have a clue what I was saying. And couldn't connect the dots.

Thank you for your patience Ngati/mods and every one else.
 
Ocean1Curse said:
And the world have moved on since WW2. When soldiers had to use their own money to equip themselves. When soldiers didn't have to argue with LT so and so in order to be evacuated by sea. When a nation didn't equip it's army adequately enough in order to not get wiped out endlessly.

Now we have a situation where if a kiwi, attached to the UN, requesting urgent med evac, has to wait for a UN general assembly to convene, in order to have the appropriate resources committed.
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Is there a coherent thought in there anywhere?
 
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