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Libya Thread 2.0

Discussion in 'Geostrategic Issues' started by Feanor, Jan 8, 2020.

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  1. Feanor

    Feanor Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Ok, so events in Libya are heating up. This thread is for all things pertaining to continuing war in Libya, including foreign involvement.

    Sirt has falled to Haftar's forces, allegedly due to the betrayal of one of the groups defending it.

    Осел груженный золотом зашел в Сирт
    Войска Хафтара взяли Сирт

    Footage of alleged Russian PMCs in Libya.

    Wall

    Haftar's forces have captured some of the Khrizantema ATGMs supplied by Russia to the Libyan government. They also captured the command point for Turkish Bayaraktar UAVs recently used by the General National Congress.

    В Ливии войска фельдмаршала Хафтара захватили "Хризантему"
    Ливийская Национальная Армия захватила командный пункт управления БЛА Bayraktar западнее Сирта

    Haftar's forces used a Chinese UAV, the Wing Loong, to strike military college studets in Tripoli, killing 28 and wounding 35.

    Поражение китайской управляемой ракетой Blue Arrow 7 с БЛА Wing Loong II группы курсантов в Триполи

    A Libyan National Army Pantsyr SAM has shot down a Bayraktar UAV flown by GNC forces. This is at least the second downing in recent days.

    https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/4357031.html

    Turkish EW and air defense troops are arriving in Libya.

    https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/4363462.html

    The Turks have allegedly rebuilt a landing strip in Tripoli to support Turkish operations in Libya.

    https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5533629.html

    The parliament of Eastern Libya has voted to cease all cooperation with Turkey.

    http://classic.newsru.com/world/04jan2020/libya_parlam.html
     
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    Update.

    A temporary ceasefire has been proposed in Libya, following negotiations between Putin and Erdogan. Putin has also admitted that Russian PMCs "might" be taking part in hostilities in Libya, but has stated that they are not affiliated with the Russian state. Negotiations between Sarandzh from the GNC and Khaftar from the LNA are now taking place in Moscow. We will likely see some de-escalation of hostilities, and there's a good chance that military failures from both sides have contributed to this negotiation. Khaftar has failed to take Tripoli despite a lengthy and coordinated push, while the GNC recently lost Sirt, with some of its own forces turning traitor. It's noteworthy that before this, Khaftar declined a ceasefire.

    В Москве начались переговоры по Ливии
    Фельдмаршал Хафтар уже в Москве на переговорах с Сарраджем о прекращении огня в Ливии
    https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5554611.html

    Turkish troops are reported among the second line of GNC forces near Tripoli.

    Турецкие войска на ливийских фронтах
     
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    Makes you wonder what Erdogan is up to and how other regional powers such as Egypt will react
     
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    Some updates.

    So a ceasefire was not signed in Moscow, due to some last minute issues on the part of Khaftar. A conference has taken place in Berlin, as well as bi-lateral Russo-Turkish talks. It's possible that Russia would like to make arrangements similar to the Syrian ones, but in Libya. It will likely be some time before we can see what this means in practice. In the meantime we have a fairly anemic resolution pushing for a political resolution of the crisis.

    Берлинским соглашениям нет альтернативы
    Российско-турецкие переговоры в Берлине
    Конференция по Ливии
    Генерал Хафтар покинул Москву, не подписав соглашение о перемирии в Ливии
    Улетел не подписав

    In the meantime, fighters from Syria are turning up in Libya, likely as Turkish proxies. For Russia and Assad this could be a convenient way to get rid of those fighters, and for Turkey a good way to make use of them, instead of simply having them ground down by Russian airstrikes and the slow SAA offensive.

    https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5566375.html

    Some photos of GNC fighters near the fronlines around Tripoli.

    https://vk.com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_1310024

    The LNA has captured some Turkish armored cars in their offensive.

    https://vk.com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_1309592