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Hydrographic Vessel KRI Canopus being inducted to TNI-AL service at Abekin-Rasmusen yard in Germany. This vessels aside being the largest Hydrographic Vessel in TNI-AL, also being told slotted to become mother ship for SRV.

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Indonesian Navy Commissions its Largest Survey Vessel - Naval News

The Indonesian Navy (TNI AL) commissioned KRI Canopus (936) during a ceremony held on February 12 at the Abeking & Rasmussen shipyard in Germany.

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Indonesian Navy orders A-Viator utility, surveillance aircraft

The Indonesian Navy (Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut: TNI-AL) is acquiring four Vulcanair AP.68TP-600 A-Viator light utility and multisensor surveillance...

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The Indonesian Navy (Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut: TNI-AL) is acquiring four Vulcanair AP.68TP-600 A-Viator light utility and multisensor surveillance twin-engine aircraft as part of the service's modernisation efforts.
The navy operates a modest air arm, with twin- and single-engine fixed-wing maritime patrol and training platforms as well as helicopters and a small number of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). According to Vulcanair, the TNI-AL signed a contract in December 2023 for four AP.68TP-600 platforms.
The TNI-AL is procuring the “A-Viator turboprop aircraft for the purpose of modernising the fleet [which is] composed of old and costly large twin-engine turboprop and obsolete single engine piston aircraft”, the Italy-based company said.
According to the company, the contract covers the “supply of four initial aircraft with a series of ancillary services such as pilot and maintenance training, and a dedicated customised simulator”.
“The contract was activated on 29 January 2026” after “proper financing” was set up, Vulcanair said, adding that construction of the aircraft has now commenced at its facilities in Casoria (Naples), Italy. The Ministry of Defense's (MoD's) selection of the AP.68TP-600 followed a 2022 market survey, the company added.
Vulcanair and the MoD have not commented on the value of the contract.
The AP.68TP-600 is a high-wing, stretched version of the P.68C, and is powered by twin Rolls-Royce M250-B17C turboprops, each flat rated at 245 kW (328 shp) at 2,030 rpm. The engines drive HC-B3TF-7A/T10173T-21R three-blade, constant speed, fully feathering, reversible pitch propellers, according to Vulcanair.

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Still much work in progress

 

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Jika Negosiasi Berhasil: Retrofit Kapal Induk Giuseppe Garibaldi Senilai Rp7,56 Triliun Jadi Batu Loncatan PT PAL Bangun LHD Nasional 2027 | Onlinenews.id

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It is seems official the budget to retrofit Garibaldi will be in the area of USD 450+ Mio or IDR 7.5+ Trilion, and will be done in Indonesia yard. The budget is expected as it is the similar number that Fincantieri put. It is also not surprising PAL as leading SOE shipyard that will be getting the job, supervise by Fincantieri off course.

However can PAL still have capacity to do significant retrofit on something they have no experience with ? No doubt the real contractor will still Fincantieri, eventough in paper PAL CEO as ussual can use this as bragging materials. It is also being talk that Fincantieri want to use this, as part to put their own design for LHD that PAL have ambition to build. PAL clearly want to have tech transfer from Fincantieri on Light Carrier/LHD design.

Still with present capacity, I suspect there will be many MRO projects that PAL need to reallocate. If they are retrofiting Garibaldi means their Irian graving dock will be use, eventough in paper it is barely fitting Garibaldi. This means they will have to rely on their floating docks for MRO job, as both their dry/graving docks will be use for Retrofitting Garibaldi and finishing UAE and Philipine LPD's.

How this going to effect their MRO jobs, including already much late Bung Tomo class Usman-Harun, let alone it's sister ships ?

 

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Jika Negosiasi Berhasil: Retrofit Kapal Induk Giuseppe Garibaldi Senilai Rp7,56 Triliun Jadi Batu Loncatan PT PAL Bangun LHD Nasional 2027 | Onlinenews.id

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It is seems official the budget to retrofit Garibaldi will be in the area of USD 450+ Mio or IDR 7.5+ Trilion, and will be done in Indonesia yard. The budget is expected as it is the similar number that Fincantieri put. It is also not surprising PAL as leading SOE shipyard that will be getting the job, supervise by Fincantieri off course.

However can PAL still have capacity to do significant retrofit on something they have no experience with ? No doubt the real contractor will still Fincantieri, eventough in paper PAL CEO as ussual can use this as bragging materials. It is also being talk that Fincantieri want to use this, as part to put their own design for LHD that PAL have ambition to build. PAL clearly want to have tech transfer from Fincantieri on Light Carrier/LHD design.

Still with present capacity, I suspect there will be many MRO projects that PAL need to reallocate. If they are retrofiting Garibaldi means their Irian graving dock will be use, eventough in paper it is barely fitting Garibaldi. This means they will have to rely on their floating docks for MRO job, as both their dry/graving docks will be use for Retrofitting Garibaldi and finishing UAE and Philipine LPD's.

How this going to effect their MRO jobs, including already much late Bung Tomo class Usman-Harun, let alone it's sister ships ?

Having ambitions as a CEO to improve and expand your company is good, but this CEO has an unrealistic high level of ambitions and is quite obsessed with prestige projects. For the outside world it is already obvious that there is not enough space to handle all this projects at once, but what we don't know is the amount of pressure and workload on the employees.

 

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For the outside world it is already obvious that there is not enough space to handle all this projects at once, but what we don't know is the amount of pressure and workload on the employees.

Well he manage to convince the government and Parliament to make PAL as holding company for all SOE shipyard. That's what he mean that PAL will get more capacities soon. Problem is those other SOE shipyard productivities are close to bottom, far below most local Private Yards, let alone yards in East Asia.

So, he has to relies more on PAL own capacities before can revamp and rebuilt other SOE shipyard productivities. I practically have big doubt on his ambitions, considering the situation facing most other government own shipyard. However considering private yards, not 'politically interesting' to be given more prestige naval jobs then PAL, what can be said. Eventough some of them have large graving docks and has abilities to conduct MRO on 50-100K tons ships.

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Example of one Private Yards that have one bigger graving dock then PAL. However I don't believe will be given more prestigious naval order then PAL.

 

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Italian FB pages confirm the negotiation for Garibaldi is progressing seriously. There're talk that Italy provide USD 1 bio credit line, and divide in to two. First related to retrofit of USD 450 and other related to Helicopter of USD 550.

This is interesting as before the amount of the second one related to both helicopter and UAV. Considering Baykar now already work with Italy for UAV marketing and production, perhaps this is plausible. AW Helicopter and Baykar UAV.

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Previously offering for ASW that Leonardo offer is not AW101 base, but AW149. At least that's what Leonardo recently bring to SEA market.

 

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Italian FB pages confirm the negotiation for Garibaldi is progressing seriously. There're talk that Italy provide USD 1 bio credit line, and divide in to two. First related to retrofit of USD 450 and other related to Helicopter of USD 550.

This is interesting as before the amount of the second one related to both helicopter and UAV. Considering Baykar now already work with Italy for UAV marketing and production, perhaps this is plausible. AW Helicopter and Baykar UAV.

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Previously offering for ASW that Leonardo offer is not AW101 base, but AW149. At least that's what Leonardo recently bring to SEA market.

Great, so besides the AS565 MBe, we got another ASW-helicopter.

It seems Indonesia goes full Italian now, so maybe there is a chance Indonesia will also order the Selex ES Falco Explorer UAV. Or both Italian and Turkish UAVs. Because Indonesia loves small amounts of many totally different models from the same class from different manufacturers and countries.
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Something else.

The reason why Indonesia bought these is a bit unclear with IPTN manufacturing the slightly bigger NC212 and N219 aircraft and the relatively new fleet of Beech and Piper light aircraft in service with the TNI-AL.

This is exactly what i am also thinking. The N219 was the perfect aircraft to replace the worn out N22s. IPTN operates indeed extremely slow and the development and production of the N219 takes an eternity, but even then, small amounts of additional NC212 MPA could be a good temporary solution. Specially because the last years Indonesia really loves "interim solutions".

And now, once again, the government of Indonesia orders something in small amounts of a totally different model from the same class from different manufacturers and countries. It looks like that for some people it is just an obsession to make TNI an impractical and inefficient mess, probably because they can earn money from such projects.

Indonesian Navy orders Vulcanair A-Viator

 

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Not official but seems rumours from finance guys come from planning submission of this A-Viator. The rumours say MinDef put this to Bapenas as part of multiengine training system. Thus it is seems going to enhance Beechcraft Baron G-58.

Why then seperate new type instead adding new baron, perhaps different sales politics play on .

 

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Paripurna DPR Setuju TNI Terima Hibah Kapal Jepang Rp203,7 miliar - Nasional

menyetujui TNI untuk menerima hibah kapal dari Jepang senilai JPY1,9 miliar atau setara dengan Rp203,7 miliar

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Parliement session decided to accept grant of 18m Patrol Boats from Japan (rumours say 4 Boats), and decided to annul previous grant acceptance from South Korea (Pohang Class Corvette). As Indonesia regulation, all grant related to TNI assets have to be approved by Parliement.

Not clear which type, but it is rumours is still new design and no need for refurbishment budget (as case of Pohang). Previously reported can have 40 knt max speed. Why it is for TNI and not Coast Guard (as previous grant) not clear.

Clearly Pohang being rejected due to the cost to refurbished it. Not something that can provide more capabilities then indigenous OPV/Corvette design. However why accept 18m boats from Japan ? Something that clearly within local industry capabilities. I do suspect more potential industrial cooperation behind it.

 

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Paripurna DPR Setuju TNI Terima Hibah Kapal Jepang Rp203,7 miliar - Nasional

menyetujui TNI untuk menerima hibah kapal dari Jepang senilai JPY1,9 miliar atau setara dengan Rp203,7 miliar

www.bloombergtechnoz.com

Parliement session decided to accept grant of 18m Patrol Boats from Japan (rumours say 4 Boats), and decided to annul previous grant acceptance from South Korea (Pohang Class Corvette). As Indonesia regulation, all grant related to TNI assets have to be approved by Parliement.

Not clear which type, but it is rumours is still new design and no need for refurbishment budget (as case of Pohang). Previously reported can have 40 knt max speed. Why it is for TNI and not Coast Guard (as previous grant) not clear.

Clearly Pohang being rejected due to the cost to refurbished it. Not something that can provide more capabilities then indigenous OPV/Corvette design. However why accept 18m boats from Japan ? Something that clearly within local industry capabilities. I do suspect more potential industrial cooperation behind it.

Maybe because TNI-AL will use these small patrol boats to guard naval bases, to use it in combination with LPDs or these small but fast patrol boats will be used around the small islands near the borders.

But yes, it will be more logic to give the navy larger boats, and the Coastguard/Customs/Water Police the smaller ones.

 

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Keris FB shown this slide from TNI-AL Budgetary Planning. Shown at 2024 the fleet combat readiness was 64.2%, from 166 ships in the inventory. That range in my opinion not high, but still can be considered moderate on global standard.

TNI-AL so far still classified all Frigate and Corvette as Destroyer Escort (Perusak Kawal). PKR means Frigates and Corvettes with missiles and PK means those without. I suspect PK are the Parchims.

Interesting for #5 on MA ship, this reference to Command Ship KRI Multatuli. This is what suppose where Garibaldi going to be sloted, when the transfer and refit already conclude.

All this shown even with new vessels coming in, there will be still huge challange on operating budget. How to maintain let alone increase combat readiness will always be TNI continue challange through out three services.

 

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Again another walk back in time, credit photos from Kompas Archieves. From 12 Whiskey submarine, only 2 still operational in 70's to 80's. KRI Pasopati 410 and KRI Bramasta 412. Something that being talk in this thread before.

What I want to add is both of them should operational until end of 80's when the second batch of 2 Type 209 enter and replacing them. Thus first batch of 209 (Cakra and Nanggala) in the initial plan should not be the replacement for both Whiskey. The contract actually 2+2 209, however the option from second batch 209, in the end being retracted. Some says the lobby to use the fund for more surface ships, got better traction.

 

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Hydrographic Vessel KRI Canopus being inducted to TNI-AL service at Abekin-Rasmusen yard in Germany. This vessels aside being the largest Hydrographic Vessel in TNI-AL, also being told slotted to become mother ship for SRV.

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Indonesian Navy Commissions its Largest Survey Vessel - Naval News

The Indonesian Navy (TNI AL) commissioned KRI Canopus (936) during a ceremony held on February 12 at the Abeking & Rasmussen shipyard in Germany.

www.navalnews.com

Here a video of the event. The new 105 meter long KRI Kanopus 936 has a displacement of 3400 ton, more than a Ahmad Yani Class frigate. The ship has a maximum top speed of 16 knots, accommodate 90 crew, and seems to be equipped with various devices, including Autonomous Mine Detector (AUV), Conductivity, Temperature, Depth (CTD) Rosette, Light Detection and Ranging (LiDAR) Drone, Magnetometer, Multibeam Echo sounder, Remotely Operated Vehicle (ROV), Side Scan Sonar, and Seismic Towed Streamer.
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Oto Melara 127 mm of KRI Brawijaya 320 in action.
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TNI AL Butuh 500 Personel untuk Awaki Kapal Induk Giuseppe Garibaldi

TNI AL membutuhkan sektiar 500 orang personel untuk menjadi awak kapal induk Giuseppe Garibaldi, kapal hibah dari Italia.

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TNI-AL told media the challanges on operating Light Carrier like Garibaldi. 500+ crews outside aviation crews. However TNI-AL claim they can prepare the crew and operational challanges (including budgetary) on operating Light Carrier.

To be fair, 500-600 crew still smaller then operating Sverdlov Class cruiser in the 60's. Wondering if the upgrade also going to add some better automation standard.

 

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Oto Melara 127 mm of KRI Brawijaya 320 in action.
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The PPAs do have impressive stature, but at this point - they are glorified OPVs with empty VLS cells, no SSM, and no ASW capabilities. When will that change/be remedied?

 

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When the budget for armament packages being effectively executed. As usuall MinDef procurement being seperate between armament and platform. Rumours say the armament packages going to be executed this year.

 

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Potential interesting update from our side,
How to quote twitter on this forum? directly the link or embbeded form?
Question is if the contract is binding to buy the rest of the procurement or it is a case like the Egyptians FREMM that in theory should have brought EF2000,M346 and other FREMMs...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Indonesia will have a carrier.<br>The Italian government has forwarded to the Parliament the decree that will allow the transfer of the Garibaldi, at no cost, to Indonesia .<br>In the attached dossier the government advise the Parliament this transfer is meant to support some… <a href="https://t.co/dBkutMjz9U">https://t.co/dBkutMjz9U</a> <a href="https://t.co/XMqeCWbUWi">pic.twitter.com/XMqeCWbUWi</a></p>&mdash; Alessandro Riolo (@aledeniz) <a href="

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">February 26, 2026</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

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Interesting the value to refit Garibaldi is not being talk to the Italian Parliament. Eventough the sign shown the refit job more likely being done in Indonesian yard, but Fincantieri still being the main supplier on the refit job.

3 Italian MPA ? ATR base or Leonardo supply the equipment ? I think for that still open competition, compare to DRASS Midget sub and M346.

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The rumours in here talk C-27MPA that being offer. Similar with what being offer to Saudi.




Rumours in here also talk that instead DG 550, DG 900 seems increasingly what DRASs potentially going to bring in as joint Submarine Production between DRASS and its Indonesia Partner Republikorp Palindo yard in Batam.

It is interesting that DG 900 is the submarine design that DRASS prepare to piggy back their SDV swimmers that two already deliver to Indonesia.

DRASS Delivers Two Swimmer Delivery Vehicles to Indonesia - Naval News

Italian underwater defence specialist DRASS has delivered two Swimmer Delivery Vehicles (SDVs) to the Indonesian Ministry of Defence as part of a broader effort to enhance the Indonesian Navy’s underwater capabilities.

www.navalnews.com

 

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100 Prajurit TNI AL Dilatih Jadi Awak Kapal Induk Garibaldi di Italia

Kementerian Pertahanan mengirim 100 personel TNI AL ke Italia untuk pelatihan awak kapal induk Giuseppe Garibaldi. Persiapan maksimal untuk pengoperasian kapal.

www.cnnindonesia.com

Seems first contigent of 100 crew will be sent first for training on handling Garibaldi Light Carrier. As the report to Italian Parliment, most of combat system and weaponery deactivate. Thus the refit budget of USD 450, I suspect will be part of that as also some hull structural refit.

TNI AL Evaluasi 154 Jenis Kapal Perang, Kapusjianmar Soroti Pentingnya Efisiensi Armada - Indonesiadefense.com | Informasi Berita Terkini dan Terbaru Hari Ini Hankam Dan TNI %

TNI AL tengah mematangkan langkah transformasi menuju kekuatan angkatan laut kelas dunia atau Blue Water Navy. Dalam proses ini, Kepala Pusat

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TNI-AL going to review 154 of its ships for system compatibilities issue. This is why in my opinion Turkey, Italia and French get more projects. Including as suppliers for refit/MLU projects. Thus there're serious effort to improve standardization for more efficiency. However how far it can be taken will be the question.