Indonesia: 'green water navy'

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Asia Defence Journal talk with Fincantieri officials during IndoDefence. Basically it sum up:
  1. TNI-AL first PPA KRI Brawidjaja will leave Italy by end of next month. Predict to be inducted into TNI-AL fleet by early September. While the second one KRI Siliwangi schedulle to hand over by end of this year.
  2. Indonesia intention for Garibaldi light carrier has potential close to fruition. As expected Indonesia will use Garibaldi as drone carrier.
It is expexted as Drone carrier, Garibaldi will be equiped by Bayraktar TB3. In booth of Republikorp, mock up of TB3 being shown as part of licensing agreement betwen Baykar and Republikorp for assembly agreement.
 

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This local online military site talk about design for UAE Al Maryah, which's now PAL Officially market it as MRSS. PAL and Lunas also team up to put this design for Malaysia relaunch MRSS bid. Lunas from my understanding will conduct final assembly, with some modules from PAL.


The design now 14,000 tons and it is seems more then Makasar LPD with steroids.
 

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Xavier Video on FMP (Red White Frigate) with PAL chief designer. Basically PAL with Babcock assistance adjust around 60% of the design due to changes at:
  1. Radars and integrated mast as they are now using mostly Aselsan and some Leonardo sensors (change from Thales on original Arrowhead 140),
  2. Dimensions as FMP around 2 meters longer then basic design (make it 140m),
  3. Propulsion as TNI AL want bit faster speed. I also recheck from other source that basic speed increase by 2 knots,
  4. The possition B now have second Leonardo 76mm, thus heavier then possition B on basic Arrowhead 140,
  5. Last one is the number of VLS being increase to 64 and also ommiting angle launch SSM to become all Vertical Launch. Midlas VLS from what I gather is in similar size against Sylver and Mk 41.
This increase the full weight to 6600 tons. This from other source that I gather make FMP AAW specialist Frigate, altough it is still maintain ASW and ASuW capabilities. Aselsan radar all fixed array at integrated mast. Making them heavier then integrated mast on basic Arrowhead 140.

The design already final, and this is clear reason why Frenchie Salesman always bitter in his channels and article about this Frigate. Basically all his sales products (MBDA and Thales) being replace by Roketsan, Havelsan and Aselsan. While Leonardo still maintain piece of pies in this FMP contract.

The downturn it is adding more than a year design adjustment to the previous schedulle. With this FMP become AAW Frigate, I don't know if they still need to add Type 52 from China as plan for AAW Destroyer or getting another batch of 2 for this FMP design.
 
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Sandhi Yudha

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Xavier Video on FMP (Red White Frigate) with PAL chief designer. Basically PAL with Babcock assistance adjust around 60% of the design due to changes at:
  1. Radars and integrated mast as they are now using mostly Aselsan and some Leonardo sensors (change from Thales on original Arrowhead 140),
  2. Dimensions as FMP around 2 meters longer then basic design (make it 140m),
  3. Propulsion as TNI AL want bit faster speed. I also recheck from other source that basic speed increase by 2 knots,
  4. The possition B now have second Leonardo 76mm, thus heavier then possition B on basic Arrowhead 140,
  5. Last one is the number of VLS being increase to 64 and also ommiting angle launch SSM to become all Vertical Launch. Midlas VLS from what I gather is in similar size against Sylver and Mk 41.
This increase the full weight to 6600 tons. This from other source that I gather make FMP AAW specialist Frigate, altough it is still maintain ASW and ASuW capabilities. Aselsan radar all fixed array at integrated mast. Making them heavier then integrated mast on basic Arrowhead 140.

The design already final, and this is clear reason why Frenchie Salesman always bitter in his channels and article about this Frigate. Basically all his sales products (MBDA and Thales) being replace by Roketsan, Havelsan and Aselsan. While Leonardo still maintain piece of pies in this FMP contract.

The downturn it is adding more than a year design adjustment to the previous schedulle. With this FMP become AAW Frigate, I don't know if they still need to add Type 52 from China as plan for AAW Destroyer or getting another batch of 2 for this FMP design.
So this modified and enlarged design is actual closer to the original Iver Huitveldt design, than the Arrowhead 140/Type 31.

The Iver had also double OTO Melara 76 mm guns at A and B position, had more launch cells (32-cell Mk41 + 12-cell Mk56), was also 6600 ton fully loaded and had a topspeed of 28 kts.
 
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