Indonesia: 'green water navy'

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Si gagah terpantau lagi Lego jangkar ⚓ sepertinya masih sekitaran teluk Jakarta ini.

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This morning enthusiast put this video shown KRI Sriwijaya still anchoring in Jakarta bay after leaving it's berth in Tanjung Priok Harbour. The carrier not leaving yet to new destination whether it's new home at Lampung Bay or to Surabaya (potentially begin it's refurbishment at PAL).

Indication that Fincantieri and PAL will begin the modification and refurbishment soon. As Navy Chief indicating new communication, sensors and electronics upgrade need to conducted soon so the Carrier can integrate with the rest of TNI-AL fleet.

 

[koxinga]

Fincantieri have other cheaper options than the FCX30 which exist as paper design. The PPX (OPV) or Vivaldi class is in production and fall within the simple/plain corvette to OPV corvette type.

Vivaldi class Offshore Patrol Vessel OPV Italian Navy MMI

vivaldi class offshore patrol vessel opv ppx italian navy marina militare pattugliatori polivalenti ppx

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[Sandhi Yudha]

Fincantieri have other cheaper options than the FCX30 which exist as paper design. The PPX (OPV) or Vivaldi class is in production and fall within the simple/plain corvette to OPV corvette type.

Vivaldi class Offshore Patrol Vessel OPV Italian Navy MMI

vivaldi class offshore patrol vessel opv ppx italian navy marina militare pattugliatori polivalenti ppx

www.seaforces.org

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Ah yes, that one.

Circulating online on sea trial of the first PPX/OPV Vivaldi class.

Fincantieri | PPX

PPX by Fincantieri is an innovative patrol vessel. Features include anti-marine pollution systems and helo capabilities for comprehensive sea monitoring.

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A nice design and capable enough. But i think it will be more expensive than the indigenous designs, too expensive for a order of 19 pieces.

 

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PPX/OPV being offer to Malaysia, however from what I gather Fincantieri did not offer it to Indonesia due the availability of local design (KRI Bung Hatta and KRI Haji Fisabillilah class) for Plain and OPV Corvette range.

Thus seems Fincantieri see the opening is for the need of more sophisticate class of Corvette - Light Frigate range.

 

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MBDA Offers SM39 Block 2 Mod 2 for Indonesia’s Scorpène Submarines - Naval News

MBDA confirmed that the company is offering its submarine-launched SM39 Exocet anti-ship missile for Indonesia’s future Scorpène Evolved submarines

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Seems MBDA want to offer what already proven. However the contract can be modified for SM40, when the later missile already proven enough operationally. This is concervative approach to make sure that what ever happen on the progress with new build missile, the customer still have Sub Launch SSM ready in inventory.

 

[ComradeVortex]

I feel like we should go straight to the SM-40 due to the much superior range

 

[Ananda]

we should go straight to the SM-40 due to the much superior range

This is the offer from MBDA as potentially they are not sure SM-40 will be available to the market already by 2031/32, when 1st TNI-AL Scorpene EVO schedule to be operational.

I believe TNI-AL in media already talk about SM-40. Which's why MBDA also talk that TNI-AL can get both SM-39 Mod2 and SM-40 later on. I suspect it is also related to pricing strategy package.

 

[x100 XKR]

Did TNI have a showcase during the anniversary? Any interesting new HW shown during the ceremony/parade?

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Did TNI have a showcase during the anniversary? Any interesting new HW shown during the ceremony/parade?

It was quite a simple ceremony without displaying any weaponsystems.

And here a closer look at the new version of the Pakaian Dinas Upacara (PDU). The video is from the military ceremony of yesterday, Hari ABRI/TNI. (5 Oktober)

 

[Ananda]

Any display on weapons system and support, being shown at TNI-Fair in Monas. Last year the equipment in TNI Fair also being shown at TNI Day Aniversary. This year the ceremony is much smaller. Reasoning:

1. TNI Personel being send to handle forest and plantation fires in Kalimantan and Sumatra,
2. Last year is special event as 80th aniversary.

I sense with much natural disaster, the government not want to have big extravaganza ceremony, as part of retrain. Besides last year crowd control management under performed much. They need to learn better on managing crowd during big ceremonies involving publics.

 

[Ananda]

Prancis Buka Suara Soal Nasib Rudal Aster 30 untuk Kapal

Pabrikan rudal asal Prancis, MBDA, buka suara soal rencana penjualan peluru kendali Aster 30 ke Indonesia. Senjata ini disiapkan untuk mengisi

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MBDA Chief told media that Indonesia already in active negotiation and already in active list of potential user by MBDA for Aster 30.

He also claim that Indonesia already negotiate Aster 30 with MBDA since 10 years ago. From what I heard this for land base and Naval base Aster 30 for Arrowhead 140 FMP. However Turkiye Roketsan that got the deal for both land base Siper base Trisula and Naval base FMP.

Since PPA using Sylver VLS then Indonesia has to use Aster 30. However from what I gather the SSM choice still can be MBDA Exocet Blk 3 or Roketsan Atmaca. This is what being implied by TNI-AL chief.