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@weaponwh I remember my history and on 21st June 1941 the Soviet Union's biggest trading partner was National Socialist Germany. In the early hours of the morning of 22nd June 1941 Nazi Germany launched Operation Barbarossa; the invasion of the Soviet Union and for 6 days Stalin went into a really deep depression and didn't do anything about the Nazis rolling his forces back across the Russian motherland. The Russians had trains delivering goods to the Germans as German forces pushed across the border of German occupied Poland into Russian occupied Poland. So just because nations may trade with one another and have economic ties, doesn't preclude them from going to war against each other. War is a political statement and the CCP will be making a political statement first and foremost, because the marxist dialectic demands that. Everything that the CCP does ALWAYS has a political dimension.i'm sure there are country do some maneuvering like you mentioned. but an united ASEAN Aggressively against China. I dont think that will happen soon, unless china start invading islands left/right. Japan is also worry about China, and continue to arm itself, but still keep a decent relationship with China due to been one of their biggest trading partner. ASEAN/Japan/Skorea will only tolerate certain level of aggression from china, appropriate action have appropriate response. With US-China current situation, +india, last thing China want right now is alienated ASEAN/Japan/SKorea. So i see china continue arm up their bases in ScS, building ships, some fishing fleet issues etc, but these action not gonna push every ASEAN together and aggressively against China. i dont think they are going do a FON into 12 nm of chinese claimed island like US did right now.
the 3 countries you mention are not in good term with China right now. but ASEAN is more than just indonesia.
China may even try to cozy up ASEAN due to ongoing geopolitical situation. which i think is opportunity for ASEAN/Japan/SKorea. they could benefit from trade war.
also many these countries buying arms from China including indonesia, if diplomatic situation is bad, i doubt these sells will happen.
You need to read history widely and when dealing with the PRC have a basic understanding of the CCP and how marxist leninsm works in practice as well as the theory. What drives them and what do they want? What they tell the world they want and what they actually want are two different things and you have to grasp and understand that concept first. Next you have to grasp and understand the concept that the CCP does not tolerate any opposition. The PLA's and all security forces, including police, allegiance is to the CCP, not to the nation nor the people, so they belong to the Party, not the nation nor the people, and can and are used by the Party at the Party's every whim.
We do not live in an idealised or perfect world. We live in a real world with all of its faults and dangers. In olden days on sailors charts at the edges it used to be written "There Be Dragons". Well the dragons of old may have disappeared, but there still be dragons today and you seem to be living in a fantasy world rather than the real world if you believe what you are posting.