Welcome to DefenceTalk.com Forum!

By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our community.

  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Huawei

Discussion in 'Cybersecurity' started by rossfrb_1, Oct 10, 2012.

Share This Page

  1. ngatimozart

    ngatimozart Super Moderator Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    5,849
    Likes Received:
    761
    Location:
    In the rum store
    The Chicoms are somewhat displeased with little old NZ over Huawei being identified as a significant security risk by the GCSB. Said telecom company spat the dummy and went public creating subsequent media dung storm.

    NZ-China 'scheduling issues' cause for concern

    However it is about time NZ raised itself upon on it's hind legs, shook it's woolly fore hoof and stood up to the PRC with regard to their recent behaviour on the international stage.
     
  2. John Fedup

    John Fedup Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    3,755
    Likes Received:
    224
    Location:
    Vancouver and Toronto
  3. regstrup

    regstrup Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2006
    Messages:
    98
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Zealand
    Denmark just choose Ericsson over Huawei to deliver 5G network even though Huawei have faster 5G technology out of security reasons.

    But it makes you think, what the Chinese will be able to do in the future, when they already now have faster 5G technology. China is fast becoming a technological super power.
     
  4. John Fedup

    John Fedup Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    3,755
    Likes Received:
    224
    Location:
    Vancouver and Toronto
    Well done Denmark! Agree, the rapid technology advances of China will present some real challenges for the West in the future. Although much is made about Chinese espionage and outright theft of IP, lets not forget about all the Western corporations falling over themselves to get marketshare in China by agreeing to local manufacturing and technology sharing. These same companies will be crying the loudest for tariffs when Chinese competitors start to eat their lunch.
     
  5. ngatimozart

    ngatimozart Super Moderator Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    5,849
    Likes Received:
    761
    Location:
    In the rum store
    @regstrup Can you post a source / link for this please.
     
  6. John Fedup

    John Fedup Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    3,755
    Likes Received:
    224
    Location:
    Vancouver and Toronto
    This article criticizes the UK’s stance on 5G with respect to Huawei. One point it fails to mention is Canada’s situation which isn’t much better from a 5eyes perspective. Canadian telecom companies have about a billion dollars of Huawei technology and the Canadian government has come come down on Huawei yet despite additional incentive to do so by recent Chinese government actions.

    https://www.realcleardefense.com/ar...its_five_eyes_partnership_over_5g_114279.html
     
  7. regstrup

    regstrup Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2006
    Messages:
    98
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Zealand
    ngatimozart likes this.
  8. ngatimozart

    ngatimozart Super Moderator Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    5,849
    Likes Received:
    761
    Location:
    In the rum store
  9. ngatimozart

    ngatimozart Super Moderator Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    5,849
    Likes Received:
    761
    Location:
    In the rum store
    You just have to shake your head and wonder at whats going on inside the pommy pollie and civil service heads; this, BREXIT, defence acquisition fubars in last 10 years, etc., etc., etc. Sometimes I think that its a script right out of Monty Python, Blackadder, Yes Minister / Yes Prime Minister, or The Young Ones.
     
  10. John Fedup

    John Fedup Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    3,755
    Likes Received:
    224
    Location:
    Vancouver and Toronto
    Sadly there’s a real disconnect. This is sort of expected from the pollies but the performance of the bureaucracy senior players is appalling. I fear there will be difficult times ahead for the UK.
     
  11. KiwiRob

    KiwiRob Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2007
    Messages:
    902
    Likes Received:
    47
    Location:
    Norway
    Do you really think HPE, Intel and Qualcom who also supply 5g infrastructure aren't providing back doors into there equipment for the US govt to use??

    This is hypocritical in the extreme. I'd feel much better/safer sticking with Nokia or Ericsson.
     
  12. John Fedup

    John Fedup Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    3,755
    Likes Received:
    224
    Location:
    Vancouver and Toronto
    No doubt that is the case but the US Congress puts some restrictions on what the US Intel community can do with these back doors. This isn’t the case in Xi’s regime. Furthermore, from the other members of 5eyes perspective, the main cyber threat is China down the road not the US. At present, Russia is likely the most aggressive threat.
     
  13. seaspear

    seaspear Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2018
    Messages:
    202
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Russia and China are engaged in cyber warfare against other countries ,China through its state media has suggested economic repercussions against Australia for action against Huawei ,certainly Chinese students in foreign universities can come under pressure to engage in information gathering activities
     
  14. John Fedup

    John Fedup Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    3,755
    Likes Received:
    224
    Location:
    Vancouver and Toronto
    Information gathering, no need, it is more like delivery agents brining back all the stuff we stupidly give to them. The West gave the Arabs vast amounts of cash for oil and now vast amounts of IP to China for inexpensive consumer goods. Transferring treasure to our adversaries, what could possibly go wrong?
     
  15. KiwiRob

    KiwiRob Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2007
    Messages:
    902
    Likes Received:
    47
    Location:
    Norway
    We know from wikileaks and other whistleblowers that the US spies on everyone all over the world regardless of supposed restrictions placed on them by congress, as an example they were tapping Merkel's phones, so those restrictions aren't very strong or effective. My personal opinion is the US is a far bigger threat to the world's stability than everyone else combined, it's the American first damn everyone else attitude and there abuse of the extraterritorial sanctions that is a massively destabilising.

    Do you honestly believe the US also isn't involved in cyber warfare, whatever the Chinese and Russia are doing the US are doing, if you think otherwise you're incredibly naive.
     
  16. ngatimozart

    ngatimozart Super Moderator Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    5,849
    Likes Received:
    761
    Location:
    In the rum store
    People please be careful as you are beginning to stand into dangerous waters, i.e., politics that don't relate to defence.