Nah, it's not selected.Germany Seemingly Selects P-8A Poseidon Over ATL2 As ‘Interim’ Replacement For P-3C MPA
The article is based off of a set of answers provided by the government to a information request by parliamentary representatives of the FDP party. This included providing a short evaluation of "points for and against" C-295 (MPA and MSA) and P-8A in the selection process - they didn't ask about the RAS-72, so no answer was given on that.
Answer 28, For C-295:
- The degree of fulfillment of operational requirements of the to-be-further-developed C-295 MPA of Airbus Defence and Space Spain is far lower in comparison to P-3C Orion with regard to range, flight duration, required velocity profile and armament. With a view towards temporary use for an interim period the degree of fulfillment is suitable in principle for Germany, however the system is not available in the required timeframe to avoid a temporary loss of capability.
- The system C-295 MSA is not suitable due to lack of a self-defense system and non-integrated military equipment.
- Operations would be possible for both systems for an interim period within the overall system of the Bundeswehr using infrastructure at the Nordholz base.
- The required operational capabilities of the system P-8A Poseidon are in principle equal to those of P-3C Orion. Only the system P-8A Poseidon, if a foreign military sales contract is concluded before summer break 2021, can provide a timely and break-free transfer of capability.
- Operations would be possible for an interim period within the overall system of the Bundeswehr using infrastructure at the Nordholz base.
As one would expect for a information request ahead of a possible procurement decision in parliament, other questions in the set mostly explored to varying degree:
- (Questions 1-10) What's the state and continued usability forecast for the P-3C Orion, and are there consequences stemming from low availability.
- (Questions 11-22) Does the Bundeswehr really need a MPA, what does it look for in an MPA (and how does it foresee requirements to change over the next 15 years), are MSA aircraft supplanting MPA a possibility.
- (Questions 23-27) What international cooperation has been undertaken with regard to a MPA successor.
There was apparently a separate - not formal - question from a FDP member (Christian Sauter, member of the defense committee of the parliament) with regard to the French Atlantique 2 offer, to which he then posted a recap of the answer on Facebook - haven't seen the actual answer published anywhere. The answer basically was that:
- France did not clarify what the state of the airframes it intended to deliver was and given the aircraft had been delivered in 1989 a possible risk of lowered availability exists.
- The number offered is not suitable to requirements (read: we "need" five aircraft in perfect state, not four with doubtful availability).
- A MPA successor will probably be chosen within this legislature period (there's a federal election in September and parliamentary summer break before that, so we're talking "before early July").
It should be noted that the German rejection of the Atlantique 2 is usually seen as part of unrelated recent mutual strongarming over FCAS. And one has to take into account that Christian Sauter is affiliated in various ways with several pro-atlanticist think-tanks (i.e. in favor of US allegiance), in particular Deutsche Atlantische Gesellschaft and Gesellschaft für Sicherheitspolitik.