There was the RNZN Fleet Oiler HMNZS Endeavour III (A11) built 1986 / 87, commissioned 9 April 1988 and decommissioned 15/12/2017, broken up for scrap 2018.
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If you are going that far back HMNZS Endeavour was built in South Korea in the 80's (as well as HMNZS Aotearoa more recently)
Another HI Sutton Submarine video. This one on Pump Jets and Screws. Very explanatory.
John Fedup
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An article discussing changes on the FREMM design for the USN Constellation class frigates. Clearly similar considerations are applicable to the T26 variants for the UK, RAN and RCN.
breakingdefense.com
For Navy's new frigate, design changes carry risks and rewards - Breaking Defense
Analysts say straying too far from a parent design can cause problems, but so can being too faithful to it.
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Ananda
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China offers Navy two subs as purchase deal hits snag
Navy chief Adm Somprasong Nilsamai on Sunday confirmed that China made an informal offer to provide the Thai navy with two used submarines to train staff while waiting for the first of its order of Chinese-made submarines to be delivered.
China offer two of PLAN used submarine (other sources speculate of Ming Class) as interim solution for Thai Navy training in Submarine operation. This happen according to this article due to delay of S26T Yuan class derivative Submarine that China build for Thailand.
What's interesting is the cause of delay due to China have difficulty on securing two MTU submarine diesel from Germany for the S26T for Thailand. The article point out German hold the export because the engine designated toward Submarine for Export.
If this's true than it's indicating that German has no problem if those diesel engine being used for China domestic use. Germany should have no problem with Thailand. This seems like when US block Turkey for the engine on T129 Atak export order to Philippines and Pakistan.
Perhaps this just need further negotiations, as US finally allowed Turkey engine for Philippines order of T129. Or perhaps this is actually a problem on China origin.
China media and internet wumao always claim that China does not need German MTU diesel as China already self sufficient on every range of marine diesels. If that so, why don't China offer their own Diesel ? If this is Thailand requirements, perhaps That's that need to convince the Germans.
Ananda
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If it's only for short term interim usage (until their S26T ready), perhaps the Thai's can still considerate that. China also give Myanmar and Bangladesh used Ming class, speculate to entice them for further export order on their S26T.
This is what interesting, if German continue block the sale of their MTU diesel, then will export customers ready to accept Chinese diesel? I know they're already using domestic diesels for latest surface ships of PLAN. Still not quite sure on their latest SSK, since my understanding they are still using German MTU.
This is what interesting, if German continue block the sale of their MTU diesel, then will export customers ready to accept Chinese diesel? I know they're already using domestic diesels for latest surface ships of PLAN. Still not quite sure on their latest SSK, since my understanding they are still using German MTU.
Sandhi Yudha
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It will be weird if Germany refuses to deliver MTU engines for submarines built for the Roya Thai Navy, but still keep exporting them to china for domestic use.
But i expect the customers of chinese built submarines will accept chinese diesel engines, after all they are already willing to accept chinese submarines. Besides that, a decent puppet state will accept everything from china.
Not a ''decent puppet state'' per see but a state which has no other alternatives; either due to political or financial reasons. Note that Pakistan has turned down certain offers of certain Chinese stuff if it feels it's not suitable or can source better alternatives from elsewhere.
Redlands18
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Here some news from Poland.
The offer of three ships presented by Navantia is based on the destroyer-size design of the advanced F-100 frigates, in service for the Spanish Navy, which has been the starting point for successful export contracts to Norway and Australia.
The Polish Project 621 Gawron class of corvettes, which are actually Meko A-100s built under licence, ended up in a failed program, because of the inability to finance the program, so i wonder if this time it will also end up as a failure or not.
Navantia Shortlisted To Build Three Frigates For Polish Navy - Naval News
The offer submitted by Navantia to the Polish Ministry of Defence to build three frigates in a Technology Transfer (ToT) program has been selected in a ‘short list’ along with two other finalists.www.navalnews.com
Babcock and TKMS are the other candidates.
Babcock Shortlisted To Build Three Frigates For The Polish Navy - Naval News
Babcock is pleased to be one of the companies down selected by the Polish Government, to provide a potential design solution for the Polish Navy’s Miecznik (Swordfish) frigate programme.
TKMS Shorlisted For The Polish Navy Frigate Acquisition Program - Naval News
Thyssenkrupp Marine Systems has been shortlisted to prepare a concept design and feasibility study as part of Project MIECZNIK, the acquisition of multi-mission frigates for the Polish Navy.
Poles shortlist TKMS and Babcock's design for Miecznik frigates
Poland’s Ministry of National Defense has shortlisted two designs for Polish Navy's new Miecznik frigate program, Babcock's Arrowhead 140 and Thyssenkrupp Marine Systems’ (TKMS) Meko-A300 frigate design.
www.navaltoday.com
TKMS Lifts Veil on Powerful MEKO A-300 class frigate - Naval News
TKMS revealed data on the Meko-A300 class frigates that the company proposed to the Polish Navy as part of the Miecznik program
www.navalnews.com
Babcock is certainly doing very well so far with the 140/Type 31, with the potential sale to Indonesia and now shortlisted here.
Musashi_kenshin
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Babcock's Arrowhead 140 Wins MIECZNIK Polish Frigate Program - Naval News
The PGZ MIECZNIK consortium has announced the signing of a strategic cooperation agreement with British industries (Babcock, Thales UK, MBDA UK) and therefore selected the Arrowhead 140 design for the future multipurpose frigates of the Polish Navy.
www.navalnews.com
The Polish government has gone with the Babcock Arrowhead 140 design. Really great decision for Babcock and the UK - we're already exporting our new frigate designs far more than we did with the Type 22 or Type 23.
Redlands18
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Interesting how the export orders for MEKO Frigates has dried up, after selling 25 MEKO 200s though the 80s,90s and 2000s TKMS haven't secured an export order for over a decade, last one being Algeria.Babcock's Arrowhead 140 Wins MIECZNIK Polish Frigate Program - Naval News
The PGZ MIECZNIK consortium has announced the signing of a strategic cooperation agreement with British industries (Babcock, Thales UK, MBDA UK) and therefore selected the Arrowhead 140 design for the future multipurpose frigates of the Polish Navy.
The Polish government has gone with the Babcock Arrowhead 140 design. Really great decision for Babcock and the UK - we're already exporting our new frigate designs far more than we did with the Type 22 or Type 23.
Sandhi Yudha
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Well, the Egyptian Navy has signed the contract for the purchase of four MEKO A200 frigates in early 2019, which are now under construction.
And also the Tamandaré Class contract of € 2 billion, was signed between the Brazilian government and the winning Thyssenkrupp Marine Systems-led consortium on 6 March 2020 for four frigates. The construction started in 2021.
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Redlands18
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Egypt sets sights on French Barracuda-class submarines
Egypt is interested in buying Barracuda-class submarines from France, French La Tribune reports.
www.navaltoday.com
Why would Egypt be wanting a Short Fin Barracuda Class sub fleet? It's a big sub for a coastal naval power.Interesting development to see whether its the Nuke version or the Shortfin DE(Attack design), France seems to be going ok with this design on the market, starting with the stalled RAN order and its currently on the shortlist for India.Egypt sets sights on French Barracuda-class submarines
Egypt is interested in buying Barracuda-class submarines from France, French La Tribune reports.
Redlands18
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Launching SLCMs? other then that it does seem a strange one, they have just received the last of 4 Type 209s from Germany
Sandhi Yudha
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I don't expect they will choose the nuclear powered Barracuda/Suffren class but the conventional Shortfin Barracuda.Interesting development to see whether its the Nuke version or the Shortfin DE(Attack design), France seems to be going ok with this design on the market, starting with the stalled RAN order and its currently on the shortlist for India.Egypt sets sights on French Barracuda-class submarines
Egypt is interested in buying Barracuda-class submarines from France, French La Tribune reports.
Maybe to replace the four old and obsolete Type 033, i expect they want four extra submarines besides the new four Type 209 boats.
Yep, but there are SLCM that can be launched via torpedo tubes.
Redlands18
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Yes and they could do that from Scorpene's from the same Company or Type 212/214s from the same mob that just finished building their Type 209s.
Very hard to work out what is going on here, is it a BS story by the Newspaper or some master selling by the French.