The Bunker Group
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Look, virus is gonna virus. Mark 2020 as the year ‘experts’ decided to pretend we could hide from a submicroscopic particle for which person-to-person is just one potential vector. And guess what ? You’ve been breathing Covid all year ... and you’re still alive!Neither do I. I was being facetious- no way there's anything positive in the FL record aside from it so far not having killed my friends in St Pete.
The Forum doesn't tolerate fake news and false narratives. At the present time this could also be classified as a political statement given the posters location and politics are forbidden on the forum. Any more such incidents from you will result in Moderator action. Consider this as an adjunct to the second warning that you have managed to accumulate in the space of two posts made within 6 minutes. Not a good look for your continued stay here especially as you have attracted the attention of two of the three grumpiest Moderators on here.
Tested positive for shed viruses from months ago most likely. Florida managed the virus much better than peer states and most countries in the West.
3. US President Trump’s refusal to use masks has caught up with him, resulting in his family and the White House becoming a cluster of CORVID-19 infections. In this Brave New World that Germany, Korea, NZ and Singapore is part of, frequent hand washing is recommended and wearing a mask when leaving home is the norm. Let me share some facts from Singapore:
4. Agreed. In Europe, Germany with 417,350 infected and 119 deaths per million is often seen as the gold standard for CORVID-19 management.Deaths per million population:
For comparison -
I don't see Florida as having managed the virus particularly well. More deaths than the US average, or the major European countries.
73,000 new cases in America — with the rate of increase rising. Denial and refusal to recognise risk is killing Americans at a record rate. On 24 Oct 2020, the number of new coronavirus infections in America at 77,640 is greater than the total number of infections in many countries.Look at his posting history. He is not someone who joins our group wanting to talk about defense matters and then talking about current events such as the coronavirus pandemic. He is an account specifically created to spread misinformation about the coronavirus.
11. As with the other misinformation about the coronavirus you try to peddle, this is also factually untrue. Risk can be managed, even as the economy is being progressively opened up for business again. For example, Singapore will pilot pre-event testing from mid-October to December to identify a model that can be widely implemented so that more large-scale events can safely resume, announced Minister for Health Gan Kim Yong on Tuesday (Oct 20).And guess what ? You’ve been breathing Covid all year ... and you’re still alive!
There is potentially a third mode of transmission, as there have now been a number of instances where frozen food packaging has tested positive for viable SARS-CoV-2 viruses. Not viewed as a major risk at present, based off the number of positives (22) vs. the # of frozen food packages tested (670,000 samples IIRC) and at present it seems unknown how the virus cultures ended up on the frozen cod packaging, but it is another thing to be mindful of.12. As with the other misinformation about the coronavirus you try to peddle, this is also factually untrue. Broadly, two modes of transmission of COVID-19 exist—direct and indirect.
(i) The direct mode includes (a) transmission via aerosols formed via surgical and dental procedures and/or in the form of respiratory droplet nuclei; (b) other body fluids and secretions, for example, feces, saliva, urine, semen, and tears; and (c) mother-to-child.
(ii) Indirect transmission may occur via (a) fomites or surfaces (e.g., furniture and fixtures) present within the immediate environment of an infected patient and (b) objects used on the infected person (e.g., stethoscope or thermometer).
Pretty much, yeah, as it glosses over and overly simplifies several issues to the point that it renders mitigation and containment efforts less effective or even potentially ineffective.
Clearly that is a false statement, based off historical evidence from past epidemics and pandemics.Mark 2020 as the year ‘experts’ decided to pretend we could hide from a submicroscopic particle for which person-to-person is just one potential vector.
I think you misunderstood the issue I have with the "stay home if sick" recommendation, as well as the issues I have with how people have been interpreting it.@Todjaeger I will beg to differ with you about the stay at home if you are sick advice. Here in NZ it is Ministry of Health advice based upon scientific advice from virologists and pandemic specialists that if you feel sick stay home, get tested and isolate until you are cleared. In the first instance you ring the national Covid-19 Health line for advice they will advise you on the next steps which are where and when to get tested, followed by the quarantine and isolation at home requirements. If you don't follow the advice you can be placed into a government quarantine facility which has isolation places within it.
I could believe it. There are some unfortunately very common misconceptions regarding the spread of disease generally, and of course the SARS-CoV-2 virus specifically. One of them being that if one has a shorter than guidelines period of contact, that one is "safe." The reality though is that research has found the risk to increase statistically after a total of 15 minutes within a 24 hours period, which is not at all the same as 14 minutes or less are "safe".