Australian Army Discussions and Updates

[old faithful]

Or phrased another way, the army has replaced an aging short range system with a much more capable modern, self propelled system.

It a bit like saying retiring the F/A-18A/B after the F-35 started entering service is a capability reduction.

Well, actually, Army did maintain both capabilities for some time, red eye/Rapier and for a while RBS 70/ Rapier, so yes, there has been a capability reduction, and both sides of Govt have been guilty of neglect for decades.

A Res would be perfect for a shorad system, but RBS 70 is not that system. Its not a particularly useful system these days. Need a fire and forget type system. I work with a guy who did years in 16 AD before it became whatever it is called now. He maintains its nearly impossible to hit a fast mover with RBS 70, it would be handy for helos and drones, but thats about it.

 

[Bob53]

Or phrased another way, the army has replaced an aging short range system with a much more capable modern, self propelled system.

It a bit like saying retiring the F/A-18A/B after the F-35 started entering service is a capability reduction.

Serious…your talking battery level weapon in NASAMS with million $ missiles vs an infantry carried weapon with a cost of $120 to $200k for a latest RB70, stinger or star streak Per Missile. And will NASAMs be even deployed at platoon or company level? It’s a bit of a gap in my opinion.

 

[Volkodav]

Serious…your talking battery level weapon in NASAMS with million $ missiles vs an infantry carried weapon with a cost of $120 to $200k for a latest RB70, stinger or star streak Per Missile. And will NASAMs be even deployed at platoon or company level? It’s a bit of a gap in my opinion.

You believe the RBS was deployed at platoon or company level?

Again, replacing an aging, short range system, with a modern, much more capable system is not a reduction in capability.

 

[Julian 82]

You believe the RBS was deployed at platoon or company level?

Again, replacing an aging, short range system, with a modern, much more capable system is not a reduction in capability.

We still need a SHORAD system for army (in addition to NASAMS). Something akin to the Stinger or its future replacement.

 

[Volkodav]

Excuse me while I go bash my head against a wall for a couple of hours.

I think it will be far more productive than trying to discus this.

 

[Julian 82]

Excuse me while I go bash my head against a wall for a couple of hours.

I think it will be far more productive than trying to discus this.

??? You are comparing apples to oranges. NASAMS is not a man portable air defence system. We are not even acquiring the AIM-9X missiles for our batteries. So at the present time we do not have a portable IR / EO guided SAM.