jatt2ooo said:
right..............hmmm. ok. this shows how arrogant some people are. :smokingc: when did i compare lca with raptor :smokingc: the lca will be equped with better radar and have far better munverbility. it will be better than the fc-1. the fc-1 is just a engine glowed to a jostick.
patroitic kid my ass! :mad the air intakes are hell a lot smaller on the lca helping it achieve stealth. its not the stealthest plane in the world but sure is beter than the fc-1! u give me some proof the fc-1 is better than the lca! all youve done is compared lca to other superior jets and cars! :roll
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I haven't compared it to the F22 at all. What I am pointing out is the farago of nonsense you spout about the aircraft being superior to current 4th gen (let alone 5th gen aircraft)
For goodness sake, it is NOT the size of the intakes that determines a radar return, it is shape and placement. That statement alone from you hilights that you know nothing about what is required to reduce an RCS, about how stealth is achieved.
Its irrelevant to me whether its stealthier than the FC-1 as I don't have a lot of concern. A spitfire would probably have a lower RCS than an FC1
If you wish to continue to trot out garbage about superior avionics, weapons systems and FC systems when there is nothing of substance in your claims then far be it for me to prick your nationalistic fervour. Just don't trot out sentences as fact when they are clearly flawed.
You've yet to show the LANTIRN and FLIR capability which you so proudly spoke of earlier.
If you want to engage in serious debate about the flaws of the aircraft, and that goes for any aircraft I am happy to oblige you. If you want to post stuff that anyone in the aviation sector could punch holes in, then don't expect to be left alone and continue to post it with a contumelious disregard for the truth.
If you want I can dissect your prev post even further. I have elected not to do that as you are obviously proud of Indias achievments. So you should be, that doesn't give you a license to build it up into something that it clearly isn't.
If you want to have a technical argument then I'm happy to engage you, if you need to attack the messenger rather than recognise that your post lacked a high degree of accuracy - and thus deserved a challenge, then so be it.
Try not to use me as a vehicle of discontent of your own frustration for being caught out.
Just to keep you busy for a while:
Where is the LANTIRN capability
Where is the FLIR capability
How is it stealthy by design, where are the aerodynamics affected to influence its stealth advantage
Wheres the Laser designation pod
How is a service ceiling of 50,000 feet going to keep this aircraft out of harms way of any supersonic combat aircraft that was built in the last 45 years?
Out of all the mumbo jumbo that you added in your prev booklet, what part is any different from a standard milspec requirement?
What significant part of this airframe demonstrates a stealthy design brief?
How does Titanium add to a stealth advantage?
Tell me why titanium has been used? I know why its been used but am curious as to what you comprehend about its role in the airframe.
How does an aircraft made of titanium/derivatives, carbon fibre and composites only have a service ceiling of 50000 feet and is still underpowered?
The aircraft is not stealthy even without an external ECM pod, you obviously are prepared to take this on blind faith from someone who must design helicopters, they certainly don't design jets.
You stated "lca will be a cheap small jsf", when you make comments like that you leave yourself wide open for criticism and rebuttal.
It may be a fine aircraft, and I do have the utmost respect for any nation that attempts to build indigenous supersonic aircraft, but that doesn't excuse nationalistic chest beating coupled with informational crap.
"lca will have better stealth techology including flares and such as well as BVR witch is very important. Dont judge a book by its cover! "
Most aircraft (including transport planes) in afghanistan and bosnia have flare kits added. and I'm curious as to WHERE these dispensers are on the aircraft, I can't see any.
In short, if you added all of what you say exists onto this aircraft then its no wonder its not meeting its performance parameters.
IF you want to have a serious conversation, then demonstrate it with answering with facts. Don't use the lame excuse that its classified. The airframe is exposed enough, there are enough pictures and photos in circulation to make any assessment of its capabilities possible.
Please desist from using words such as stealthy when it is apparent that the aircraft has an RCS greater than an F14 Tomcat.
I'm far from arrogant, but I hate charlatans though. I am happy for you to prove me wrong (especially on stealth), but until then I question your credibility.
