Indonesia: 'green water navy'

Honestly, these type of boats should be more of a Bakamla asset, not a Navy asset.

As long as Maritime Constabulary jurisdiction is not being politically clear and supported as implementations, patrol vessels will still build up by various agencies.

Maritime Constabularies now being literally fought on between Bakamla, Navy, Fisheries, Transport, Customs and Police. Enough Patrol vessels between them already, but each try hold on on their own turf. This matter already problematic for decades, but maritime slice of cakes is tempting.

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12 AAV7 ex USMC from batch of 35, previously reported as only 10. This being talk as part of 1st batch. Shown using add on armour and weapon station standard USMC.

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Different from existing 15 AAV7 ex ROK Marines on armour and weapon station. Well better this then BTR-50.

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So these are actually AAVP7A1s/LVTP7A1s, with those Up-Gunned Weapon Station (UGWS) for the Personnel variant, as well as appliqué armor kits and bow planes.


Here a video of the arrival.

Ananda said:

Maritime Constabularies now being literally fought on between Bakamla, Navy, Fisheries, Transport, Customs and Police. Enough Patrol vessels between them already, but each try hold on on their own turf. This matter already problematic for decades, but maritime slice of cakes is tempting.

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It's another multi agency mess that leads to inefficiency and miscoordination, Bakamla should be the main body and take on the job of Fisheries, Transport, Customs.

Many such cases...

This is what the main cause of all this conflicting maritime constabularies claim. The regulations its self are not clear cut on whose handle who, and each jurisdiction.

Basically what Supreme Court say to parliement:

1. Rebuild the regulation on Bakamla,
2. Make it clear who has the jurisdiction on maritime cobstabularies function.

Means all conflicting regulations has to sort out, not just making one regulations. This come from legal challenge coming from some civil servants union from Ministry of Transport. Like I said before the 'cake' for maritime jurusdiction is just to delicious for those bureaucrats, that they will fought for it.

The legistaltion for Bakamla as Coast Guard has to make sure all other conflicting regulations and legistations on other agencies has to be taken out and merge to new Coast Guard functions.

In paper there'are enough patrol boats from all agencies now to make good base for credible white hull institution. Will just see how this going to resolve.

Navy to acquire 105 AAV7 from the US by 2028

Add from Kompas:

The schedulle it will come 35 each year up to 2028. This mean it is still in line with the offer from USMC few years ago (when Andika head of TNI). With this number, it can replace most of BTR-50.

So, can we say that any additional procurement of new BT-3F isnt happening..?

I still say depends if there're brokerage that can arrange acceptable financing line with MoF/Bapenas (Finance Guys). Personally I still see the problem with direct Russian procurement is getting appropriate financing scheme.

However with this kind of deal with surplus AAV7 through EDA, I think the budget allocation for Marines armoured will be absorb by those AAV7 for this period.

ComradeVortex said:

Navy to acquire 105 AAV7 from the US by 2028

Andy Febriand (@Andy_Febriandy) on X

UPDATE : TNI AL Datangkan 105 Ranpur AAV Marinir Bertahap hingga 2028, Ini Rinciannya TNI AL bakal membagi 105 unit AAV M-35 ini secara merata ke tiga komando pasukan pendarat: Pasmar 1 Jakarta, Pasmar 2 Surabaya,& Pasmar 3 Sorong. Selengkapnya: https://t.co/m8KYGQC5c7

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So it seems all IFV/APC/heavy equipment of Korps Marinir have received the new "musim kemarau paint job". How effective will this camouflage be during rainseason? In my opinion it looks a little bit amateuristic.

Ananda said:

Add from Kompas:

https://nasional.kompas.com/read/2026/09/28/10481971/menhan-sjafrie-serahkan-12-kendaraan-tempur-amfibi-aav-m-35-buatan-as-ke?page=all

The schedulle it will come 35 each year up to 2028. This mean it is still in line with the offer from USMC few years ago (when Andika head of TNI). With this number, it can replace most of BTR-50.

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According to some sources only 10 ex-USMC AAVP7A1 are recently received, but some sources tell there are 12 delivered. Confusing.

Dengan tambahan tersebut, jumlah AAV M-35 yang diterima TNI AL akan bertambah menjadi 35 unit. Sebanyak 23 unit dari pengadaan gelombang pertama akan tiba di Indonesia pada akhir November 2026.

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Well TNI-AL Chief specifically tell 35 will come each year and for this year the rest 23 will come in November. Thus it is 12 unit that come as first installment. Rumours talk the version in FMS EDA agreement are AAV7-A1 RAM/RS. If this true then it is the last generation of AAV7.

Signing on agreement between PAL and Fincantieri for KRI Sriwijaya modernisation project. Whether Fincantieri local partner will involve remain to be seen.

Confirmation from US Embassy in Indonesia of 12 delivery from 35 order AAV-7 ex US Marines at the price of USD 23 Mio. Also confirmation of additional order for 70 more.

Circulating online video that shown KRI Sriwijaya left Jakarta Port. If it goes to Surabaya, will this mean it will go to PAL facility to begin refit program ?

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Confirmation that ex USMC AAV7-A1 that being send is that already have RAM/RS standard performance. Means it is the last generation of AAV7.

A video of the new KRI Raja Haji Fisabilillah 391 was uploaded today, still at the DRU shipyard.
It looks quite nice for a OPV/corvette/frigate, the Hensoldt radar, Oto Melara 76 mm and twin 40 mm guns and 2 × 4 launch tubes are already installed.
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Progress on FMP construction


Several SatCom antennas can be seen already installed, Dipole antenna can be seen already installed on the front and middle mast

What this photo represent is actual PAL Projects. Hope they are focusing on this, as getting side tracked on other projects at this moment, simply is not in their capacity.

@Sandhi Yudha, Let me discuss the Korvet Nasional on Indonesian thread. Fincantieri actually already talk on this Korvet Nasional program with PAL even from 90's. In 2000 they give design through their subsidiary Orizzonte Sistemi Navali, but they lost to Damen with SIGMA design.

At the present seems there are 3 choices in my opinion that seems being consider as the path for Korvet Nasional to replace all Parchim and Fatahilla plus additional capacity.

• Simple plain vanilla Corvette like KRI Bung Hatta,
• OPV-Corvette plus as like KRI Haji Fissabillah,
• More Sophisticate Corvette-Light Frigates like SIGMA 10514 PKR.

The last one that seems Fincantieri try to get with FCX 30, as PAL and MinDef already not having good mood anymore to pursue partnership with Damen. What not clear yet if all three path going to be pursue as Korvet Nasional.

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People must be very confident of their A.S.W , it seems to be putting all the eggs in one basket ,I would like to know what other choices were considered Maybe each cruiser will be be part of a carrier battle group, one for the Cavour, one for the Trieste. And each CBG will be guarded by 1-2...

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@Sandhi Yudha, Let me discuss the Korvet Nasional on Indonesian thread. Fincantieri actually already talk on this Korvet Nasional program with PAL even from 90's. In 2000 they give design through their subsidiary Orizzonte Sistemi Navali, but they lost to Damen with SIGMA design.

At the present seems there are 3 choices in my opinion that seems being consider as the path for Korvet Nasional to replace all Parchim and Fatahilla plus additional capacity.

• Simple plain vanilla Corvette like KRI Bung Hatta,
• OPV-Corvette plus as like KRI Haji Fissabillah,
• More Sophisticate Corvette-Light Frigates like SIGMA 10514 PKR.

The last one that seems Fincantieri try to get with FCX 30, as PAL and MinDef already not having good mood anymore to pursue partnership with Damen. What not clear yet if all three path going to be pursue as Korvet Nasional.

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What is actually the reason of the bad relationship of MinDef and Koninklijke Schelde? Lack of ToT?

As a replacement for 19 ships, i doubt designs like the SIGMA 10514 or FCx30 will be selected, i expect more corvettes in the same category, but slightly larger and more capable than the Parchim and Fatahillah classes, something between 84-100 meter long. So probably a mixture of Bung Hattas and OPV98s will be chosen.

Sandhi Yudha said:

What is actually the reason of the bad relationship of MinDef and Koninklijke Schelde? Lack of ToT?

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I think this is compounded reasons, from geopolitics where Indonesia increasingly does not like some elements of Dutch Right Wing, to Damen perceive ask too much and gave less compare to what French, Italy or Turkiye competitors when doing joint projects.

In early 2000 it is being talk in media by PAL that Korvet Nasional project will build 20-24 ships. But yes, I also agree it will not all be in the class of Sigma 10514 or FCX 30.




This is the design contender being submit by Fincantieri (106 m) and Damen (105 m) at early 2000 for Korvet Nasional program. I got impression that PAL have tendency to support Fincantieri as partner even at that time. This it is light frigate category already. Still with the need for larger frigate, destroyer, LHD, more Submarines etc, changes will happen. The Korvet Nasional if being revive, it will be in will not be one Corvette design. Personally I still see cheaper design like KRI Bung Hatta will become more numerous even to OPV 98 design let alone FCX 30 (if being taken).