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ADMk2

Just a bloke
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I was once (a long time ago) skeptical Super Hornet/Growler purchase, thinking it would be a costly stop-gap, but I must say that it has really paid off dividends with integration of JATM and other weapons (like LRASM) going first onto those platforms - sometimes years ahead of other platforms. Doubly so knowing now that F-35 TR-3/Block IV development has struggled and stalled, which is a prerequisite for integration of a lot of newer weapons (and considering only a few RAAF jets are TR-3, most won't even be capable until they are converted). It has put the RAAF first in the queue on a lot of these weapons that the F-35-only countries are going to have to wait a bit to get.



As long it fits - apparently the interface is standardized for JDAM-family weapons, but it will be aircraft dependent on size/shape where it can be carried.
RAAF has retired the JDAM-ER from it’s inventory. Has it shown any interest, anywhere on a powered version?

Seems to me SDB and variants have overtaken extended range JDAM variants in RAAF’s interest…

Now if a powered SDB were to become available, well that might be a thing…
 

old faithful

The Bunker Group
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RAAF has retired the JDAM-ER from it’s inventory. Has it shown any interest, anywhere on a powered version?

Seems to me SDB and variants have overtaken extended range JDAM variants in RAAF’s interest…

Now if a powered SDB were to become available, well that might be a thing…
Just out of interest, in case anyone was wondering what happend to the RAAFs stock of JDAM-ER's, They were transfered THE Ukraine.

 

Bob53

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RAAF has retired the JDAM-ER from it’s inventory. Has it shown any interest, anywhere on a powered version?

Seems to me SDB and variants have overtaken extended range JDAM variants in RAAF’s interest…

Now if a powered SDB were to become available, well that might be a thing…
There is a ground launched jet powered SDB.
 

ADMk2

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There is a ground launched jet powered SDB.
SDB-1 only. Analogous to HIMARS / GLMRS-ER. It isn’t air-launch capable.

Given we’re all in on the latter, I can’t see us being much interested in it. A powered, air-launched SDB1/2 is what I was alluding to. Something I think is only a matter of time, given SPEAR has already gone down that path (as a concept at least…)
 

koala

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Likely Yes.
The reports of what went on would seem to indicate this was not the work of hobbiests having fun.
There defiantly seems that something is going on, drones (spying?) over Williamstown and now internet cables cut offshore in WA. Are the Chinese testing us right NOW?
 

ADMk2

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Likely Yes.
The reports of what went on would seem to indicate this was not the work of hobbiests having fun.
Drones fly daily around most airports. The reports so far are that drones overflew Williamtown. What they did, if anything else, has not been further reported on that I have seen, can you point me to any?

NSWPOL Counter-UAS taskforce doesn’t seem to have detected any evidence of malicious intent….

Using UAS to conduct surveillance without warrant on any property in NSW is a contravention of the Surveillance Devices Act 2007, hence the defence referral to NSW Police.

Yet NSW Police seem to have determined no offences have been committed...

That seems like a pretty low level “grey zone”.
 
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Bob53

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Drones fly daily around most airports. The reports so far are that drones overflew Williamtown. What they did, if anything else, has not been further reported on that I have seen, can you point me to any?

NSWPOL Counter-UAS taskforce doesn’t seem to have detected any evidence of malicious intent….

Using UAS to conduct surveillance without warrant on any property in NSW is a contravention of the Surveillance Devices Act 2007, hence the defence referral to NSW Police.

Yet NSW Police seem to have determined no offences have been committed...

That seems like a pretty low level “grey zone”.
It’s a pretty exposed site. I was at the end of the runway last week and 12 x F35 were in the air doing touch and gos. Was great watching that close.
 

MARKMILES77

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RAAF Peregine now operating in the South China Sea.
Flying missions out of Clark Air Force base in the Philipines.
Treasure trove of intelligence there I am sure.
 

Bob53

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Mig
RAAF Peregine now operating in the South China Sea.
Flying missions out of Clark Air Force base in the Philipines.
Treasure trove of intelligence there I am sure.
that might be why some internet cables were cut off the WA coast.
 

Maranoa

Active Member
RAAF Peregine now operating in the South China Sea.
Flying missions out of Clark Air Force base in the Philipines.
Treasure trove of intelligence there I am sure.
Except it is not the first overseas deployment, it is the second. The first was on all the planespotter sites last month.
 

ADMk2

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Those “multiple, layered defences” seem to be working wonders… Well they would if those layers included anything else apart from chainwire, chubb and the odd 2nd Div exercise vehicle checkpoint, once every two years or so… Precautions that arwn’t known to have a spectacular level of success against aerial threats…

Second time in a matter of weeks And how were the drones detected, one might ask? Sighted visually by base personnel as it happens… So much for the “layered counter-UAS defences” we supposedly have…

 

Stampede

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Those “multiple, layered defences” seem to be working wonders… Well they would if those layers included anything else apart from chainwire, chubb and the odd 2nd Div exercise vehicle checkpoint, once every two years or so… Precautions that arwn’t known to have a spectacular level of success against aerial threats…

Second time in a matter of weeks And how were the drones detected, one might ask? Sighted visually by base personnel as it happens… So much for the “layered counter-UAS defences” we supposedly have…

What are we thinking ?
Curious hobbyist making a dumb decision to fly in this no fly zone or something else.

If something else, then that is suggestive of something more sinister.

Somehow, I don’t believe this will be a passing trend.

Very concerning

Regards S
 

ADMk2

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What are we thinking ?
Curious hobbyist making a dumb decision to fly in this no fly zone or something else.

If something else, then that is suggestive of something more sinister.

Somehow, I don’t believe this will be a passing trend.

Very concerning

Regards S
I’m not sure. Unlike others, I’m not particularly minded to make more out of this, than has been reported. I rarely check my closet for boogeyman either...

If I was forced to guess, combination of hobbyist / mental health issues is what I would lean toward.
 

hauritz

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Ghost Bat Briefing - Youtube/Wales Adventures

There is something I took away from this.

First of all it is a simple aircraft. It is the production facility and supply chains that are the more complex and ultimately just is important, arguably more important than the aircraft itself. This facility will be owned and controlled by Boeing which isn’t a good thing.

The US is also building CCAs but it is taking a different approach. To start with it is using multiple manufacturers. This guarantees competition which ultimately should give them more innovation, better quality and the best price. Meanwhile we have locked ourselves in with Boeing for the production life of this aircraft. Not sure this is a win for us.

Back in the day we used to have the Government Aircraft Factory. As the name suggests it was government owned and controlled. We built many aircraft types at that factory. It built Canberra bombers, Jindivik drones, Mirages, F-18s and so on. Ironically what was the GAF eventually ended up in the hands of Boeing and that same facility was probably largely responsible for the design and construction of the MQ-28.

Really the government should not of relinquished control of the GAF as it was clearly a strategic asset.

What the government should consider doing is setting up its own aviation manufacturing hub similar to the shipbuilding industry. This would free us up from dependency on one aircraft manufacturer. In this day and age a facility like this could easily bounce around between an array of different products that could either be built under licence or locally designed.
 
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