Indonesia: 'green water navy'

[Ananda]

One enthusiats in X id Alphanovember make this latest slide of TNI-AL existing and planned combatan fleet. Some I highlight in light red, as those are the ones so far that not include on latest 41 KRI MLU. Thus indicating will be on exit strategy within few years ahead.

The Submersible drone (KSOT) being talk going to have 30 order and as Italian Parliment dosier talk about 6 DRASS midget submarine. For the midget submarine, it is shown in last year IndoDefence that DRASS and its local partner want to bring DGK Midget submarine version. However it is also rumours that TNI-AL want the version that represent flexibilities of both midget and larger litoral submarines, thus indicating DRASS larger design of DG-900. Frankly speaking if TNI-AL only envisage those midget submarines as choke points defense, then either DGK or DG-900 can be sufficient enough in my opinion.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

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One enthusiats in X id Alphanovember make this latest slide of TNI-AL existing and planned combatan fleet. Some I highlight in light red, as those are the ones so far that not include on latest 41 KRI MLU. Thus indicating will be on exit strategy within few years ahead.

The Submersible drone (KSOT) being talk going to have 30 order and as Italian Parliment dosier talk about 6 DRASS midget submarine. For the midget submarine, it is shown in last year IndoDefence that DRASS and its local partner want to bring DGK Midget submarine version. However it is also rumours that TNI-AL want the version that represent flexibilities of both midget and larger litoral submarines, thus indicating DRASS larger design of DG-900. Frankly speaking if TNI-AL only envisage those midget submarines as choke points defense, then either DGK or DG-900 can be sufficient enough in my opinion.

Thanks for sharing. I wonder how long KRI Cakra 401 stays in the fleet. The most logic step is to order one more Scorpène class boat, for a balanced 3-3 submarine fleet, instead of a single new submarine type from again a new different supplier and another country, or an old worn out boat from a type/brand TNI-AL never operated, as "INTERIM SOLUTION".

 

[Ananda]

From PAL FB, on what seems the latest iteration on KSOT.



There's hatch on top the sail. I don't know whether this is means it is have option to be manned and unmanned. Previously it is said the option is there, but it could also be the hatch for maintenances.

Thanks for sharing. I wonder how long KRI Cakra 401 stays in the fleet. The most logic step is to order one more Scorpène class boat, for a balanced 3-3 submarine

Cakra being said only maintained as training submarine. With the DRASS midget submarine and KSOT underwater drones, I suspect MinDef potentially looking on approach that can provide more quantity but in more affordable approach.

There're rumours that after all 3 209-1400 being satisfactory refurbished, potentially another 209-1400 will be supply by Hanwha Ocean as some materials for that submarine already being prepared by DSME. Personally I suspect some settlement on Batch 2 contract should be reach, or PAL and MinDef must paid some penalty to Hanwha. Something that not politically acceptable.

So in my opinion and considering fiscal pressure that Indonesia now facing, 4 209-1400 (with additional one as Cakra replacement and Batch 2 settlement), 4-6 DRASS (whether DG-550 or DG 900) and 2+2 option Scorpene can be the underwater defense approach that will be taken.

As the interim submarine, the option still there, but so far no Interim options whether for Submarine, Frigates and MRCA//Fighter being finalized, despite all the talk. Still knowing Indonesia, that lobby for Interim assets still there.

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Seems most risk assesment to detour KRI Prabu Siliwangi 321 avoiding horn of Africa, and choose instead Cape/South Africa route paid off. Yemenis Houthi already stated they will again attack US and Israeli warships. With that situation, why bother to gamble on newly delivered warship where most of is arnaments still not activate.