The Russian-Ukrainian War Thread

[vikingatespam]

The statements of RU officials, combined with troop dispositions is more then enough...
Maybe for you, not for me. I guess I am less gullible, I would rather see military plans than official statements.
Out of curiosity, what “troop dispositions” you are referring to and what is your military conclusion based on those dispositions?

Well, if you are waiting for Second-Rate-Stalin to whisper sweet plans into your ears, I suspect you will be sorely disappointed. Barring some sort of eavesdropping at the highest levels, we are all left to observe and analyze for intent. We are all internet G-2 shops here.

At the start of the war the RU advanced along many mutually-non-supporting axes in order to cover as much UKR as possible. RU continues to attack along all fronts (less BEL, but I suspect for once in his life The Potato finally made a wise decision). If the UKR military collapses, expect advances at all points, not just the Donbas.

You have claimed that nothing in this war surprises you. Why dont you give us your forecast ?

Claiming that RU doesnt want to advance faster...
Claiming? You read whatever you want to read.
This is not an English Grammar forum, but could you remind me since when “if” is a “claim”?

Your post 13830:

rsemmes: “If Russia has any intention of advancing faster.”

Your statement, not mine. You put yourself in a contrarian position to my statement about RU should be making faster advances.

You simply being a contrarian does not advance the discussion.

Talking about official statements and “The RU tank production (new + refurb) estimates are all over the map.” These statements: "Ukrainian officials have previously estimated that the manufacturer can produce approximately 60 to 70 T-90 tanks per year under ideal conditions”?

Those statements are indeed part of the “all over the map” point I made. We are not disagreeing here.

No forgetting at all, it wasnt the topic of the original question...
I disagree. If Ukrainian situation is worse than that of Russia, how bad, or not, Russian situation is, it's a lot less relevant; but Ukrainian situation is.

Beltrami2005’s statements in post 13813 talk about RU solely, and without mention of UKR issues.

So you can disagree with reality as much as you want, but it doesnt affect anything.

Since you feel so strongly about UKR demographics...
I wouldn't use the word “feel”, but I feel that I can say that it is “standard knowledge” the Ukrainian low birth rate, its deserters and the millions of Ukrainian living abroad. Don't you agree?

Why dont you present a claim, and back it up with some sort of reference, and we can decide ?

We are waiting.

 

[vikingatespam]

Indeed there are parts of Europe that are deemed to dangerous to line on. In France the "Zone Rouge" was originally deemed to cover about 1200 km^2.

Zone rouge - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

UKR will likely have similar areas for some time, although I would imagine will be somewhat easier to clean up.

 

[rsemmes]

Why dont you present a claim

I am not in the department of "presenting claims", but I have been asking a few questions.

but it doesnt affect anything.

Completely disregarding what happens to one of the participants in a war affects everything.

We are not disagreeing here.

Actually we are, officials statements are mostly propaganda. Surprisingly, you do believe Russian official statements: "The statements of RU officials".

Wow!
So "troops dispositions" now, in 2026, is where those 120.000 Russians where going... In 2022!

Trying to come back to reality now... (Not that easy.)
"If it looks stupid but it works, it is not stupid." That is a military maxim. These Russian tactics, infiltration/attrition are working. Ukraine is at the receiving end, it depends on foreign money and weapons, it has 2.000.000 deserters, its energy sector is not "in the best shape" and Russia is advancing; slowly.
Does Russia wants to advance faster? I don't think so, that's why I expressed my uncertainty using "if". I also provided a reason, a weaker Ukrainian negotiating position before the end of the year.
Can Russia advance faster? Possibly. We have seen those opportunistic attacks and we read about those small armoured attacks. "If it's working, don't repair it". That's another military maxim.
Has Russia decided that this is the best option? That, I don't know, but I cannot see any real reason to change it either. Maybe Russia considers this the "cheapest" option.

does not advance the discussion.

With that, I have to agree. Sending your interpretation of my posts beyond the Tannhauser Gates, does not help.

 

[KipPotapych]

Edit: Posted in error, prematurely.