Hopefully not. IIRC the RAN already had a River-class DE in service from the late 50's until the late 90's.Given the Mogamis are named after Japanese rivers, perhaps the River Class. Has a nice connection with our own history to boot. Perhaps reincarnation of names like Derwent, Swan and Torrens.
Conroy mentioned in the initial announcement the CMS is a Lockheed Martin product so I'd say an english version probably already exists (a version of CMS 330?).No more so that the CFAs (high pressure steam, US systems and nomenclature, digital CMS), Anzacs (9LV, CODOG, German nomenclature and design philosophy) and Hobarts (Spanish nomenclature and design philosophy) were in their day. Since we abandoned using slightly modded RN designs the only constant has been change.
If the CMS in the Mogamis is as good as reported, and is properly translated into English and RAN speak, I would expect it may well become the new standard and norm.
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Well, SSN AUKUS is technically planned to displace more than Hunter, so I hope that tracks as 'capital' enough.As Perth was associated with a destroyer previously, I’d prefer that it be named on a future AWD destroyer in addition to the Hobarts. Capital city names should be reserved for capital ships.
1884 with the Victorian torpedo boat HMVS Napean.Certainly the rivers have a long history as namesakes, from at least 1910.
Appreciating the history behind the S, V&W, N and Q class names I'd love to see other more neglected elements of RAN history get what I'd consider well earned attention.WWI River class destroyers, WWII River and Bay class frigates, Type 12 DEs, and most recently our mine hunters and one of the Anzacs had river names.
Lots of historical names to choose from.
I'd still love to see another Swordsman, but it's probably beyond time for Voyager, Vampire and Vendetta. Maybe the first three from Japan, then Ns for the first five Australian built ships.
I know it's a little way into the future, but if/when we end up with 20 surface combatants, do FBE & FBW actually have sufficient space (or potential) for them all? Given the possibility (??) of an east coast SSN base, do some of the Mogamis, for instance, find a home there too? Sounds like a lot of $$$$Article in the Newcastle Herald.
‘Newcastle is being considered as the maintenance destination for the nations new multi-billion dollar fleet of frigates’.
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Volks, the trick is to come up with the right name for the lead ship of the class. After that, it doesnt need to stick to a theme although it would nice. Just as long as they're deserving. The ship will always be known as the name of the lead ship, HMAS Anzac being a prime example.WWI River class destroyers, WWII River and Bay class frigates, Type 12 DEs, and most recently our mine hunters and one of the Anzacs had river names.
Lots of historical names to choose from.
I'd still love to see another Swordsman, but it's probably beyond time for Voyager, Vampire and Vendetta. Maybe the first three from Japan, then Ns for the first five Australian built ships.
Maybe we need a southern base halfway between FBW and FBE. We already have Darwin up north.I know it's a little way into the future, but if/when we end up with 20 surface combatants, do FBE & FBW actually have sufficient space (or potential) for them all? Given the possibility (??) of an east coast SSN base, do some of the Mogamis, for instance, find a home there too? Sounds like a lot of $$$$
Ironically, two Second WW Mogami class heavy cruisers were largely responsible for the sinking of HMAS Perth in the Sunda Straight.Any word as to what the SEA 3000 class will be called.
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We need another major East coast base, Brisbane maybe.Maybe we need a southern base halfway between FBW and FBE. We already have Darwin up north.
I wonder if this is a theme that goes with the strategy of the eventual east coast submarine base. If I remember Newcastle was one of the proposed sub sites. Makes sense to build a submarine facility that can also support surface ships, spreads the costs.Article in the Newcastle Herald.
‘Newcastle is being considered as the maintenance destination for the nations new multi-billion dollar fleet of frigates’.
Rest is behind a paywall.
Where though? Carrington or somewhere along the Hunter River/South or North channel?I wonder if this is a theme that goes with the strategy of the eventual east coast submarine base. If I remember Newcastle was one of the proposed sub sites. Makes sense to build a submarine facility that can also support surface ships, spreads the costs.
FBW has a lot of wharf space, particularly with Henderson coming online for maintenance, so I would have thought it is fine for say six-eight new frigates.
A large part of the old BHP steelworks site is still empty isn’t it? It also has a large river frontage.Where though? Carrington or somewhere along the Hunter River/South or North channel?
I don’t think civmec Newcastle is a possibility unless they move and build a similar shed like the one at Henderson.
Yup, Mayfield East. down the south channel.A large part of the old BHP steelworks site is still empty isn’t it? It also has a large river frontage.
Directly north of the coal piles, is that Carrington or Mayfield East?
Batches, Vs for the first three, N for the next five and Q for the five after that.Appreciating the history behind the S, V&W, N and Q class names I'd love to see other more neglected elements of RAN history get what I'd consider well earned attention.