Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force Thread

Sandhi Yudha

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Japan to send destroyer through South China Sea to join joint drills off Indonesia

JIJI Apr 6, 2016


The Maritime Self-Defense Force said Tuesday that it will dispatch its destroyer Ise to a multinational maritime exercise to be hosted by the Indonesian navy on April 12-16.

The 13,950-ton vessel will travel in the South China Sea to join the Komodo Exercise set to be conducted in areas near the western Indonesian city of Padang.
Complete article at Japan to send destroyer through South China Sea to join joint drills off Indonesia | The Japan Times

I think its the first visit of a Japanese warship to Indonesia in many years and the first visit of a Hyūga-class helicopter destroyer to South-East Asia ever ...

Edit: Sorry, i was wrong: On 8 November 2013, Super-Typhoon Haiyan crossed the Visayas, Philippines. Ise joined the relief operation, using its helicopters to provide relief supplies to remote areas cut off by the storm.
 

KiwiRob

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This is the link for the article above which is quite an interesting article in its entirety.

One liners are not permitted so please remember that in the future. Read the rules. http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/rules.php
So the one liner rule doesn't apply to moderators?? Enforcing rules which you don't follow yourself is somewhat dictatorial. I would suggest that the forum rules apply to everyone who visits the forum, :D
 

KiwiRob

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I thought the AWACS version of V-22 looked exciting, certainly something of interest for the RN.
Ngati and on a further note where was the warning for this post, it's a one liner, ASSAIL has been here a long time, he know the rules, you can't pick and choose who the rules apply to and who they don't. :daz
 

Volkodav

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So the one liner rule doesn't apply to moderators?? Enforcing rules which you don't follow yourself is somewhat dictatorial. I would suggest that the forum rules apply to everyone who visits the forum, :D
You get out of the wrong side of bed this morning or perhaps haven't yet crashed after a hard night? Both posts you just put up are pretty unnecessary and dumb.

A reasonable person would understand the need to inform new members and remind experienced members of the rules. While the occasional one liner is tolerated depending on context they are discouraged with new members and repeat offenders being reminded of the rule in a polite manner. Poking a stick at a mod because of a personal issue with them is an entirely different manner and I await the inevitable response with baited breath and a slight smirk.
 

ngatimozart

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Cut him some slack, it's actually two lines and surely as a moderator you know that people with fewer than X number posts can't post links.
So the one liner rule doesn't apply to moderators?? Enforcing rules which you don't follow yourself is somewhat dictatorial. I would suggest that the forum rules apply to everyone who visits the forum, :D
Ngati and on a further note where was the warning for this post, it's a one liner, ASSAIL has been here a long time, he know the rules, you can't pick and choose who the rules apply to and who they don't. :daz
Don't pick a fight with any moderator or try to second guess us. If you do you won't win. No correspondence will be entered into or considered. Consider this a first strike warning.
 

gf0012-aust

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Any further discussions about Forum Rules can go to PM

going round and around in circles even if its a mobius strip isn't helping
 

kato

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I would assume this will allow it to fit out its tier-1 fleet VLS.
The four Kongo, two Atago and the two 27DD planned in addition will likely have around 700-750 VLS cells altogether, so SM-2 Block IIIB will at most fill a third of their fleet VLS. More likely it'll be somewhere around 16 missiles per ship with the remainder going to stocks.
 

colay1

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Japan is pursuing it's A2/AD strategy to achieve air and maritime dominance over contested islands. A new longer-ranged ASM will be in the works with sufficient reach to cover the disputed Senkaku islands from locations off Okinawa.


Deterring China: Japan to Develop New Anti-Ship Missile for Defense of Senkakus | The Diplomat

Deterring China: Japan to Develop New Anti-Ship Missile for Defense of Senkakus

Tokyo intends to deploy a new anti-ship missile to deter Chinese advances in the East China Sea.

The Japanese government is developing a new land-to-sea missile to reinforce the defenses of remote Japanese-controlled islets in the East China Sea known as the Senkaku in Japan and the Diaoyu in China, the Yomiuri Shimbun reports on August 14. The Japan-administered Senkaku Islands are also claimed by both China and Taiwan.

Japan has not revealed many details about the new weapon system except that it will have an approximate range of 300 kilometers (186 miles), use solid fuel, and is slated to be deployed by 2023. Funding for the new missile will be included in the fiscal year 2017 defense budget request and it will solely be developed and produced in Japan.

“The new missile will be mounted on a vehicle, making it easy to transport and change positions. It will have a guidance system using the global positioning system (GPS) or other means, and be capable of striking targets, such as other countries’ warships deployed around remote islands, from nearby islands,” the Yomiuri Shimbun reveals.

more...
 

Waylander

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I know the Japanese like to build their own stuff to keep their defense industry and with it it's military growth potential alive.

But IMHO a longer ranged missile like LRASM seems to be better suited when it comes to covering their small and partially disputed islands with quick reaction land based AShMs.

Buying into the program and producing them under license like so many other US Systems seems more sensible to me.
 

swerve

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Japan already has missile programmes to base this on, including a high-speed 150+ km range air-launched rocket-ramjet anti-ship missile under test, & the 300 km range may be a public limit chosen for political reasons.
 

Waylander

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That may be the case.

I am all for them using their SSM-1B and other missile programs as an indiginous starting point. I just thought the published range to be bareky adequate for the intended role.
 

colay1

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Additional reporting on the Japanese and South Korean navies being upgraded to IAMD capability. This will enable them to deal with simultaneous air and ballistic missile threats. Can't wait for AMDR to supplant SPY-1 on the Flt III Burkes in the next several years.


The four Kongo, two Atago and the two 27DD planned in addition will likely have around 700-750 VLS cells altogether, so SM-2 Block IIIB will at most fill a third of their fleet VLS. More likely it'll be somewhere around 16 missiles per ship with the remainder going to stocks.
Lockheed to equip US, Japanese and South Korean destroyers with Aegis ballistic missile - Naval Technology

Lockheed to equip US, Japanese and South Korean destroyers with Aegis ballistic missile

Lockheed Martin will equip US, Japanese and South Korean destroyers with Aegis ballistic missile defense systems, under a $490m contract.

Two Atago-class destroyers in Japan and three KDX-III Sejong the Great Class destroyers in South Korea, which include RoK Sejong the Great, RoK Yulgok Yi I and RoK Seoae Ryu Sungryong, will receive Aegis Baseline 9 that is fitted with the SPY-1 radar.

When paired with the MK 41 Vertical Launching System, Aegis Baseline is capable of delivering missiles for every mission and threat environment in naval warfare.

Already, four of Japan’s Kongo-class destroyers and two Atago-class destroyers carry the Aegis system.

Aegis provides the destroyers with advanced sea, air and undersea threat detection capabilities, Lockheed said in a statement.
 

kaz

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Japan is pursuing it's A2/AD strategy to achieve air and maritime dominance over contested islands. A new longer-ranged ASM will be in the works with sufficient reach to cover the disputed Senkaku islands from locations off Okinawa.
Measuring the graphic used by Yomiuri to compare the range of the Type 11 and this new missile, the Type 12 has a range of 150km+, well within the published specifications of other known ASM's and its predecessor Type 88.

The JMSDF is supposed to adopt a new Type 12-based ASM for its vessels in the near future. I assume the new missile would be based on the naval ASM in turn.
 

kaz

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As the Japanese MOD published its budget request, more information has become available to the public.

The GSDF's new anti-ship missile would be known as the Type 12-kai.
As expected, it'll be based on the new ship-to-ship missile being developed for the MSDF, also based on the Type 12, as illustrated by this diagram.
A Type-12-based air-to-ship missile for use by the MSDF's maritime patrol aircraft is being developed as well.
 

DaveS124

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Sister to IZUMO has commissioned. Some bits deleted for brevity. For whole article pls click on the link at bottom.

Report follows, from South China Morning Post (ie Hong Kong).


Japan’s second large helicopter carrier enters service

22 Mar 2017 - 10:37am

Japan’s second big helicopter carrier, the Kaga, entered service on Wednesday, giving the nation’s military greater ability to deploy beyond its shores as it pushes back against China’s growing influence in Asia.

Accompanied by a military band, Maritime Self Defence Force commanders took possession of the 248 metre long vessel at the Japan Marine United shipyard in Yokohama near Tokyo, where it was docked next to its sister ship the Izumo.

In its biggest show of naval power in foreign waters in more than 70 years, Japan plans to dispatch the Izumo in May on a three-month tour through the South China Sea, sources with knowledge of the plan told Reuters earlier.

The addition of the Kaga means Japan will be able to mount overseas operations more often in the future. It will be based in Kure western Japan, which was home to Japan’s most famous second world war battleship, the Yamato. The Izumo operates from Yokosuka near Tokyo, which is also where of the US Seventh Fleet’s carrier, the Ronald Reagan is based.

Japan is also adding longer-range patrol aircraft and military cargo planes to its defence capability, and buying Lockheed Martin F-35 fighter jets, amphibious assault vehicles and Boeing’s Osprey troop carrier, which can operate from the Izumo and the Kaga.


Link Japan now has two big helicopter carrier ships as Kaga enters service | South China Morning Post
 
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