China May Soon Have 800 Missiles Targeting Taiwan

gf0012-aust

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OK, I think we all get the picture - to quote the simpsons:

"nothing to see here folks, lets move along"
 

dabrownguy

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Family guy quote
"the guy who aims is in the johns. oh wait here he is now. The next one is coming towards your house."
 

berry580

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Do you think I'm a 2 year old kid, that is a rubbish argument/

Yea well, you are producing a lot more than they can buy. There is a limit, like it or not, China is exceeding it, at their own peril.

Berry, of topic comment, cut down the pro-China anti-US anti-India anti-Taiwan rhetoric. Your arguments and posts seem very unorganized and plain propaganda'ish instead of a serious discussion of the issue. It does not paint a good picture of yourself or your background.
Its not an arguement, but a statement.
If you want China to not have short range ballistic missiles that CAN strike Japan or Taiwan, then how about tell Americans the Russians to not have ICBM's which can strike ANYwhere on the earth's surface, anytime, anywhere. So just get over it.

There's a limit, yes, but whoever will die first, it won't be the Chinese atleast.

Berry, of topic comment, cut down the pro-China anti-US anti-India anti-Taiwan rhetoric? Well I don't know if its rhetoric or not, all I know is its the truth, if you want to prove me wrong, go ahead, if you can't, then read and learn.
I'm assuming you're joking? They're short range ballistic missiles - they can only reach Taiwan or Japan

The shore based batteries use variations fo the Russian Styx - which also means that they can only reach Taiwan. In addition, the C8 series of shore based missiles are ramp launched, they're not VLS (which is irrelevant)
Well did the PLA officially the say the missile are aimed at Taiwan and will only use it against Japan or Taiwan?
In that case, there will be no objections to having them point to the sky somewhere out of range of this particular island, or will there?

What drivel! Confusing QUALITY ("national unity") with QUANTITY ("whether a country oncludes some territory or people") here. Also, sound a little too much like that little Austrian corporal used to say: "heim ins Reich".
Well is it illegal to build something with no objectives?

In that case, what are ICBM's for?
 

gf0012-aust

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Well did the PLA officially the say the missile are aimed at Taiwan and will only use it against Japan or Taiwan?
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Unless someone is absolutely stupid they will realise that the SRBM's only have the range to hit Japan and Taiwan - unless China intends to bomb her own people in the west??

The PLA announcements over the last 18 months make it pretty clear that they will use the weapons at their disposal. Current estimates place 80% of their projection capability on the eastern regions or east coast.
 

turin

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Well did the PLA officially the say the missile are aimed at Taiwan and will only use it against Japan or Taiwan?
I am under the impression you want to blur something very obvious, namely the fact that these missiles are intended to be used against Taiwan. There could be absolutely no doubt about that. I dont condemn China for doing that, it simply fits their policy as part of their one-china-ideas and military force is considered as last way. Since they have SRBM at their hand, they put it up against Taiwan. So what?
To build, and more important, locate them directly next to Taiwan for no reason (or withouth objectives as you said) is...well...naive. Also I guess you are forgetting the military operations of the PLA in 1996 (when "by chance" the taiwanese elections where held) where short range rockets launched by the chinese hit the sea VERY near the taiwanese coast?! Oh well, I'm sure there just was no place somewhere else... :roll

To assume, these BM are not intended to be used against Taiwan is about the same as to say the US didnt develop ICBM to shoot them at Russia (only to answer your question of what the ICBM are for, just the fact that they werent used, does not negate the intention). Weapons always have objectives.
 

SABRE

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Aegis said:
Maybe he is trying to say the SRBM is use against Indian and Vietnam! Hehehehe..
Why would China attack Vietnam???
& they wont attack another country with Nukes.

The last thing China would do is to bomb Tiwan & start a long scale war. Which will probably turn into 3rd WW.

USA, Britain, Japan, South Korea (n few other of their allies--may be India & "Afghanistan & Iraq-- without their will" add Israel too) getting togather to fight China.

China, North Korea togather. China dragging Pakistan into it (just because India is their too). Pakistan dragging most of the Muslim world with it.

Most of the Europe will be waving the white flag.

It will get messy. It would be hell. Thousands of American soldiers will die in Tiwan & South Korea. It would be easier for China to invade them.


Any country's government is actualy more sensible, smarter and responsible than we think they are.
 

armage

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:idea2 Will the US really want to sacrifice their own people to defend Taiwan?
Plus I highly doubt the US wants to get into a large scale war, they have too much to lose.............
If Sabre's picture is right, next superpower will be Russia.
 

gf0012-aust

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armage said:
next superpower will be Russia.
I don't think so - China and India are the emerging super powers - that still leaves the US with the mantle of what the French term "the worlds only hyper power".

The Russian economy, infrastructure is absolutely cactus. Any 10-20 year projection you want to look at has very grave doubts about Russias ability to do a Lazarus.

she has a smaller economy than australia, she has none of the infrastructure necessary to create impetus, she does not have anything that a world consumer market wants except oil - and in case anyone hasn't noticed, the last 2 years have seen a dramatic jump in alternative energy use. because of the middle east being considered an unstable market, the amount of research applied to fuel cells, hydrogen, LPG, LNG and other forms of energy for vehicles has jumped dramatically.

It may surprise some to know that China has been the biggest sponsor of international events for renewable energy research. She has purchased in excess of $100bn in LNG from Australia and $30bn from Iran.

Now if the worlds largest growing economy is moving away from oil as it sees it as volatile - what other goods and services will russia provide? It's not in Arms supplies, the US is the largest, followed by the UK, French, Germans and Chinese. Chima is the largest seller of small arms in the world.

That doesn't leave the Russians with much to pin their hopes on.
 

muslim282

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QUOTE " China and India are the emerging super powers -"

Oh please... My friend China still has a long way to go, eventhough militarily they get stronger by the day. The US seems to be the only representative of this title ( l hope this will soon change ). A super power must also have a super economy in order to exert influence over global trends. China is just not there.

Now INDIA- an emerging super power.... ha ha ha ha hahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha :D: :D: :D: .
oh please my friend, l,ve wet myself laughing.:clown
Your economy may be getting better, but your population and poverty is out of control. The LCA and Argun projects are considered white elephants.
lndia is the nation in this world that has the largest gap between its social classes. The News Week magazine described indias slums as more disease
prone than any place in Africa. This was evident by the outbreak of plague in india on a small scale a few years ago. This is not the making of an emerging superpower.
 

mysterious

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muslim, read what Gary wrote in his post first properly and then post around such irresponsible comments!! He said that China and India are 'emerging superpowers' but the US in French words is the only 'hyperpower' around. So you see, no other country comes in the US' catagory. And I would agree with this, US is more of a hyperpower with China and India pretty much in a viable spot for being tommorow's superpowers. :smokingc:
 

gf0012-aust

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muslim282 said:
Your Economy etc.............
Actually, I'm not Indian. I'm trying to be factual and neutral. So Forbes, British Financial Times etc... know less than you about other countries economies and militaries? As an entity, India and China will be superpowers well before any other smaller nuclear powers.

Just because you have a problem with India doesn't mean you have any more credibility.

Also, learn to respond with civility. You do your responses no justice by behaving poorly.
 

Aegis

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SABRE said:
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Why would China attack Vietnam???
& they wont attack another country with Nukes.
Don't u know both of them hate each other v much?By the way,a ballistic missile not necessary be arm with nuke war,a convential warhead can send fear too! Plus vietnam has no way to counter these things.
 
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