War Against ISIS

anan

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Has Boko Haram pledged allegiance to Daesh?

Yes, Boko Haram pledged Bay'ah to Daesh many years ago and that Bay'ah remains in effect. In practice that probably means that Daesh sends some combat enablers to Boko Haram (trainers, embedded advisors, logistics [supply, transportation, maintenance], ISR and C2. But probably not a lot. Or the Boko Haram wing of Daesh would have demonstrated greater success against the Nigerian, Niger, Camaroon and Chadian armies and police.

But perhaps the goal is to keep a logistical and organizational hub in the region that can be reinforced at a later date at a time of their choosing. In which case from Daesh's point of view, Boko Haram is doing so so.

Still Daesh doing even this much has led to a semi permanent US FID base in Nigeria that trains the Nigerian Air Force, a FID mission to Ghana and to other countries in the region. And assistance to the region from many other countries.

Thank goodness Biden Pres has not yet withdrawn troops from the region.
 

STURM

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Malayan Emergency - 1948 to 1960.
There's another success story but one not often heard of, the Huk rebellion. At one time things really got bad but with American assistance and advice the Philippines government came up with an integrated militarypoltical/economic approach which led to the defeat of the rebellion.
 

hauritz

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Thank goodness Biden Pres has not yet withdrawn troops from the region.
Biden has stated that he no longer wants the US to be the World's policemen. His predecessor more or less said the same. I am not sure I would count on US support going forward.
 

STURM

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Biden has stated that he no longer wants the US to be the World's policemen. His predecessor more or less said the same. I am not sure I would count on US support going forward.
That's fine but let's see how things really pan out. The U S. has troops based at numerous points worldwide to safeguard U S. interests and NATO aside it has treaty obligations with various countries, requiring the U S. to come to the aid/defence of these countries.

My question is whether the U S. was ever the "world's policeman' per see? It intervened [rightfully so] in Bosnia and Kosovo but stayed out of Rwanda. All its other interventions were in support of its national interests : Vietnam, Dominican Republic, Granada, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, plus confrontations with Iran.
 
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Sandhi Yudha

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|"Wenisch, 30, denied the charge. Her lawyers said the child's mother Nora was an unreliable witness, and they alleged there was no evidence the girl had actually died. Nora and the girl had been enslaved by IS, along with many other Yazidi."|
Even 'just enslaving' them is already worth those 10 years in prison.

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ngatimozart

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|"Wenisch, 30, denied the charge. Her lawyers said the child's mother Nora was an unreliable witness, and they alleged there was no evidence the girl had actually died. Nora and the girl had been enslaved by IS, along with many other Yazidi."|
Even 'just enslaving' them is already worth those 10 years in prison.

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10 years in a modern German jail and is far to lenient, even for the enslavement. It's to western, to soft and comfortable almost like a holiday camp. There's no real punishment or deterrence factor in it, especially for such heinous crimes.
 

Sandhi Yudha

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10 years in a modern German jail and is far to lenient, even for the enslavement. It's to western, to soft and comfortable almost like a holiday camp. There's no real punishment or deterrence factor in it, especially for such heinous crimes.
That's true.
After 10 years she will be released and becomes a free woman, probably writing best-seller books about how she suffered so much and playing the victim. Or she can continue with her way of thinking and her holy war.

And don't forget, big chance that she will got remission, because of pressure by leftish human rights organisations.
 

kato

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Even 'just enslaving' them is already worth those 10 years in prison.
The BBC article a bit wrongly states she was convicted for "being an accomplice to a warcrime", and portrays that as the cause for her sentence.

The original charge against her was for murder and war crimes (in the sense of being party to the wilful death of a protected civilian), which would have carried a mandatory lifetime sentence.

She was however acquitted of those charges - but instead sentenced for "assistance to negligent manslaughter through failure to render assistance" and "the enslavement of a protected civilian resulting in the death of that person". This carries a minimum 10-year mandatory sentence, but at the same time implies the death was not an intentional murder on the part of the person charged. If the child had not died the enslavement would have carried a minimum 5-year mandatory sentence btw.

The original murder charge was too difficult to prove, especially since the child did not die in place but only after a relative of the husband brought her to a hospital in Fallujah (stated in court by the child's mother as the main witness, who did seek a conviction for murder), and the court to some extent acknowledged that she would have faced repercussions from her husband for interfering without permission with both slaves.

In addition the court acknowledged as part of the verdict that with this sentence she would also be sentenced for her membership in IS (for: membership in a foreign terrorist organization, assistance to attempted murder and assistance to attempted war crimes).

And don't forget, big chance that she will got remission, because of pressure by leftish human rights organisations.
Actually, more because under German law of course she is entitled to have a conviction reviewed by a higher court instance.

It should be noted that this was not the first conviction of a female IS member in Germany for a similar complex of crimes, and by far won't be the last.
 
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