The Russian-Ukrainian War Thread

[Murse]

Very interesting to see how old some of the soldiers are by now, how exhausted the population in the frontline areas is, and how no vehicles can get in or out of the hot zone around Kostiantynivka anymore.

Great viideo, thanks for sharing.
I've not commented on this thread before as its not really my wheelhouse but I do wonder why Russia keeps on at this. After seeing the civilians talk, they clearly don't seem to want to be part of Russia, so why keep up the charade? Has it gone too far for Vlad to pull back? Absolutely insane...

 

[rsemmes]

Very interesting to see how old some of the soldiers are by now, how exhausted the population in the frontline areas is, and how no vehicles can get in or out of the hot zone around Kostiantynivka anymore.

I wonder why are they shooting at a distant, fast moving, small target, standing, without support, with ARs.

I also wonder if Russia is taking a second brake. We are halfway trough June and things are even slower than usual. I don't think it's because Russia is "running out of men" (it's not asking for half its cannon fodder to be foreigners), is it training them for longer? Changing tactics again, even more fire and less movement?

Edit.
"Without support" for his rifle, at least one of them was standing by some kind of pillar.

 

[personaldesas]

I wonder why are they shooting at a distant, fast moving, small target, standing, without support, with ARs.

Pure speculation on my part, but when engaging drones I can imagine you’d want to stay somewhat mobile rather than get fixed in one position.

I also wonder if Russia is taking a second brake. We are halfway trough June and things are even slower than usual. I don't think it's because Russia is "running out of men" (it's not asking for half its cannon fodder to be foreigners), is it training them for longer? Changing tactics again, even more fire and less movement?

The reasons might be the recent Ukrainian counterattacks (which split attention), strikes on logistics, and the expanded drone kill zone, which doesn’t favour an offensive force.
I’d also guess that Russia is increasingly forced into small-group infiltration to make gains, that’s simply much slower than more conventional assaults.

 

[rsemmes]

get fixed in one position.

That doesn't explain their shooting.

small-group infiltration

Russia was already doing that, the change is that it looks even slower now.

 

[deyhere]

You keep on about NATO expansion, However NATO is a volatary organisation that countries make their own decision to join, know one is forced to join and this has been explained to you many times by different posters as has the reality that it is mainly Russian actions that have caused this expanxxion not the invassion of sovereign territory, On the other side of the story russian expansion from past history has been by inversion and subjecting of the people and you wonder why NATO is expanding. The simple reality is that Russia is an old fassion expansionist empire.
The last time I checked NATO had not taken over the governments of its members, so let us drop the augment about NATO expansion as it is due mainly to Russian/Soviet actions and they caused it .

You already know my take on this matter, going round and round, don't make any sense

 

[deyhere]

You dodge the main point yet again which in my post it was the children that have been killed,injured or traumitised in both wars so don't talk about hypocrisy until you address the issue of the thousans of Ukrainian children you ignore. The hypocrisy is all yours.

Do you have evidence of these thousands of Ukrainian kids you talk about? pictures, videos, etc? the Russians have a hotline which they claim, parents of missing kids can contact, to reunite with their kids. the Russians claim these kids where caught in the cross fire on the frontline and had to be taken to safety, the Russians don't deny having kids that have lost contact with their parents. it's sad to see kids die anywhere in any war, but with you, you like to criticise Russia only. do what you preach or forget about correcting others, it's pathetic

 

[deyhere]

Yes this does happen due to pollitics and a share set of values just like Russia and its frends also vote together nothing new there.
As for frends well that is like your personal friends you still criticise but but it is done privately, just as you would with a perxonal friend.

thank you, show me your friend and i tell you who you are

 

[deyhere]

You are still lumping all The countries of the western culture together which is wrong we are all individual countries with differing points of view and
labeling all of the with the faults of one is like accusing a sister of the crines of her bother. as for morals I was talking about individuals.

Honestly, if my brother killed someone and went out in public to brag about it, i will dissociate my self completely from him and anything to do with him. but you criticise him in private, according to you then join him to punish someone else that committed the same crime, pretending all along like your own brother is not a killer. don't forget you criticised him in private

 

[deyhere]

I raised the possiblity in regard to a Russian troll due to you basically sticking to the Russian proppergander type of post. however while your english is good, it is not the english of a native born english speaker. My travel has been resticted to many different countries in South East Asia pluss Australia for the obvious reason that they are a lot closer
As for wing augments I have yet to see anything you have posted that has not been counterd by some other poster with a more logical imput.

Facts to me, propaganda to you. lets agree to disagree, why Russian troll? because my views are far away from yours? and now, not the English of a native English speaker? i was born in Brixton, i know no other language than English, or are you trying to determine the Brand of Brit i am? black, white, Indian or Muslim? come on man. nice try thou.
you need to travel more, i will give you a tip. travel to Africa, so you can see for your self what the high moral standard west done to all of Africa and are still doing today. you have to understand that people see the world differently.
countering a post don't mean your counter point is valid.

 

[deyhere]

The problem is not who said something, it is what she said. KipP. in post 14659 already dug into this issue. (rolls eyes)



Just because you consistently use RU talking points, is no reason to think you are a RU troll, right ?

doesn't make any difference, top US official saying that. has to be looked at

are you using western talking points? are you a western troll? give me a break man. trying to label me a troll, meanwhile you and a bunch of guys on here talk to me questioning me aggressively, just because i don't support Ukraine, are you a Ukrainian troll? you constantly use Ukrainian talking points?