The Russian-Ukrainian War Thread

[personaldesas]

Reality will set in soon, historians will not forget that Russia beat all of NATO in Ukraine

Alright mate

 

[personaldesas]

I know Rob is not American, am just responding to Rob because he's commenting on what i said and he seem to have picked sides already, Rob likes to call out Russia as the big bad bully, Rob forgets that it's not just Russia that's in the game of invading others, when i point that out, your trying to remind me that Rob is not American. ok cool

Okay, and what exactly is your point?

That nobody should support a country’s right to self-determination because other countries have violated it before? That small countries are fair game to invade? That nobody is allowed to criticize an invasion unless every other invasion in history is criticized first?

 

[Redshift]

If that is what you want to read...

It is what you wanted to say, not what I read.

 

[personaldesas]

just read through the rest of the answers here.

If deyhere’s posts over the last few days are the kind of discussion the forum is comfortable letting dominate the thread, then it’s probably not a place where I’m interested in participating much further in the debate.

 

[KipPotapych]

Why would the US (or anyone else, for that matter, but Ukraine) would have the “zomg, biolabs” in Ukraine? I do not believe anyone had answered that question yet. It’s been a few years.

Was wandering yesterday why the “biolab” question was again discussed yesterday. Turns out there is a “bombshell”. Turns out from the same people as the last time.

 

[Rob c]

you brought up the argument that Ukraine hates Russia, not me. i can give you loads of examples where people don't like each other and still live together even after fighting a major war.

You were the one who said that the Russians were brotherly I was just showing that this was not true in this case and all the rest of you what you are stating is irrelivant attempt at point scoring.

 

[Rob c]

the kind of freedom you brought Libya, you want to bring it to Ukraine. you have no shame. the good thing is that you have to deal with Russia, Russia is not going to let that happen. Russia is in the middle of bringing it's own kind of freedom to Ukraine

I have a personal disagreement with any country invading another and if you had bothered to read my previous posts properly with out your tinted glasses on you would have understood this, but understanding things outside of your very biased outlook is not a strong point with you.
As for Russia bring its own kind of freedom, that is total Bull sh-t they invaded to take control which for any country to do to a neighbour is totally unacceptable.
I would recomend that you stop trying to twist posts and ignore what does not suit your aggenda, it is not the sign of an inteligent debater.

 

[deyhere]

I have a personal disagreement with any country invading another and if you had bothered to read my previous posts properly with out your tinted glasses on you would have understood this, but understanding things outside of your very biased outlook is not a strong point with you.
As for Russia bring its own kind of freedom, that is total Bull sh-t they invaded to take control which for any country to do to a neighbour is totally unacceptable.
I would recomend that you stop trying to twist posts and ignore what does not suit your aggenda, it is not the sign of an inteligent debater.

am just airing my views like everyone on here, no twisting or anything like that, you and some are just picking on me because you don't like what i said. your backing each other up and asking the same silly questions again and again, when i respond to one, the next one takes over and questions me more aggressively even when they have seen my last response on the topic. that's not a sign of good debaters either.
you support Ukraine, i support Russia, lets have a good intelligent debate. try and keep the same energy and reserve some advice for those that use language like 'fool and you don't know English'. it will improve the debate

 

[Rob c]

am just airing my views like everyone on here, no twisting or anything like that, you and some are just picking on me because you don't like what i said. your backing each other up and asking the same silly questions again and again, when i respond to one, the next one takes over and questions me more aggressively even when they have seen my last response on the topic. that's not a sign of good debaters either.
you support Ukraine, i support Russia, lets have a good intelligent debate. try and keep the same energy and reserve some advice for those that use language like 'fool and you don't know English'. it will improve the debate

You say support Ukraine and you are right because I support the oppressed over the apppresser and I support the invaded over the invader.
A good intelligent debate would be great, however when continually come up with things like BOTHERLY NEIGBOURS they are not, THEY SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE they don't A RUSSIAN STYLE of FREEDOM, is not freedom. and then ramble on about other countries not connected and possible concepts yet to happen it is hard for it to be considered to be good debate.
Maybe you should ask Donald Trump to invade GB after all they do speak the same language and are botherly neighbors across the sea and they do have a type of freedom, it all fits.
IMHO no country has the right to invade a peaceful neighbor and you have yet to come up with an intelligent reason for Russia to invade Ukraine that complies with international law and moral thinking.
I would also advise that you read and understand your own advice.