The Russian-Ukrainian War Thread

Feanor

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Russian air defense teams in Belgorod.


Wreckage of a Ukrainian Peklo and Flamingo munitions. Like Russia's Banderol', much has been made of these but their use remains uncommon.


Russian light air defense planes being used to hunt Ukrainian drones. These are the ones I believe got hit in the link above.


An interesting drone defense team, Russian, with an MRAP and a number of light vehicle. I suspect this is probably poor use of the vehicle.


Another strange looking drone defense team, with a UAZ flatbed light truck, and twin Maxim guns in the back. It's unclear why this is the weapon choice.


Interesting bits.

Apparently October 17th Russia broke an all time record with 268 guided bomb strikes in Ukraine.


Russia taking out a rare Ukrainian Vampire SAM.


Ukraine took out a Russian BM-30 presumably Tornado-S.


Photos of Russian Ulan and Ulan-2 light vehicles are becoming more and more common. Note these vehicles are based on common UAZ and GAZ automotive components, just with different bodies. In principle Russia should be able to pump out tens of thousands per year without much difficulty. However the war is large, and it's unclear they can produce enough for the war effort.


Russian forces somewhere moving in a column of converted civilian cars.


A rare Russian LuAZ-969, a Soviet light buggy for front line use.


Russian Su-34 carrying D-30SN UMPB gliding munitions. Unlike the UMPK these aren't converted Soviet free-fall bombs but purposebuilt gliding munitions that saw use first during this war. They're likely more expensive and less plentiful, and reportedly have longer range.


A Ukrainian MiG-29 carrying a HARM, something we haven't seen in a while.


Ukraine's newly formed 15 Corps will contain 1st TerDef BDe, 44th Arty Bde, 10th Mountain-Assault Bde, 129th Heavy Mech, 143rd, 144th, 158th, all Indp. Mech Bdes, 130th Recon btln, 434rd UAV squadron, and the Chernigov border guard unit. It's unclear if this is an exhaustive list but it does appear to be similar to other Ukrainian army corps.


Ukraine's 21st Mech Bde with an Strv-122.


Ukraine's 32nd Mech with an upgraded T-64BV.


We have our first sighting of Ukrainian National Guard units with a Leo-2A4. Assuming it's in fact their tank and not just a photo-op.


Ukraine's 42nd Mech Bde operating an American M114A1 152mm towed howitzer, one of the older guns (like Russian D-1s) we see in front line service during this war. Ukraine received some of these from Portugal and some from Greece, and possibly others.


Footage of a rare ScanJack 3500 mineclearing vehicle in service with Ukraine's 47th Engineer Bde.


There are reports that British OneWeb satellites are being used to control Ukrainian unmanned boats.


Reportedly Ukraine received another batch of LLM Martlet SAMs.


Ukraine will reportedly get Skyranger 35 AAA on a Leo-1 chassis (raising questions about availability of chassis, after all the MBTs themselves are already going to Ukraine).


The Czech Republic intends to overhaul 30 T-72M4CZ and hand them over to Ukraine.


Another batch of VCC-1s (M113 variants) heading from Italy to presumably Ukraine.

 

Hoover

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Ukraine will reportedly get Skyranger 35 AAA on a Leo-1 chassis (raising questions about availability of chassis, after all the MBTs themselves are already going to Ukraine).
The exact amount of chassis available is nowhere mentioned. I am quite sure that there are more chassis in stock than complete MBT´s because FFG is still building engineer vehicles and recobery vehicles on Leo1 chassis, too.
 

Feanor

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The exact amount of chassis available is nowhere mentioned. I am quite sure that there are more chassis in stock than complete MBT´s because FFG is still building engineer vehicles and recobery vehicles on Leo1 chassis, too.
Could the chassis still be in production?

EDIT: It appears the fight for Liman has begun. Russian forces pushed through the forest east of town and entered the outskirts. It seems timed to coincide with the strike on the crossing in Raygorodok. Russian forces have also taken Dronovka, which begin the envelopment process for Seversk. Dronovka itself is in a low area, the hills south-south-west of it are in my opinion the real prize, and if Russia takes them Ukraine will probably have to abandon Seversk. With the fighting in Kupyansk, Pokrovsk and Mirnograd still ongoing, Ukraine will likely struggle to focus on a specific area to try and halt Russia's advance.
 
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Hoover

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Could the chassis still be in production?
No. They are long out of the line. The last left the line in 1984, with 4.800 built. But I bet there are still plenty of them around in europe. The Skyranger is currently built at Rheinmetall Italy near Rome.
 

SolarisKenzo

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Chassis are out of production.
There should still be several hundreds available in various versions (MBT, pionierpanzer, bergepanzer, etc etc) in some locations in Europe.
For example RUAG has about 90-100 parked in northern Veneto.
Until a few months ago the tanks were still there, all stored in good conditions, saw them with my eyes.

Also many EU armies still use leopard 1-based special versions, being replaced in the next years.


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seaspear

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Chassis are out of production.
There should still be several hundreds available in various versions (MBT, pionierpanzer, bergepanzer, etc etc) in some locations in Europe.
For example RUAG has about 90-100 parked in northern Veneto.
Until a few months ago the tanks were still there, all stored in good conditions, saw them with my eyes.

Also many EU armies still use leopard 1-based special versions, being replaced in the next years.


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These appear to be covered from the elements enabling easier reactivation perhaps Russia should of invested in this
 
Ukrainska Pravda has learnt that at least 250 Russian troops are in Pokrovsk – they are engaging in firefights and killing Ukrainian soldiers, particularly drone operators, at their positions. Logistics into the city are fully controlled by Russian drones, forcing Ukrainian soldiers to walk 10-15 km to reach their positions. The situation is beyond critical.
Ukrainian troops are still holding positions south of Pokrovsk, although communication with them is minimal. Some of these positions are located between Russian lines.

Others, Ukrainska Pravda has found, exist only on maps – either occupied by wounded soldiers or abandoned entirely. Ukrainian defenders are facing a catastrophic shortage of infantry.
We can't evacuate the wounded – some of the positions in forested areas are already under enemy control. By miracle, we managed to pull out two infantrymen this morning who reached the outskirts of Pokrovsk, but then an FPV drone hit, and both are in a critical condition.
Quote from the second officer: "Things are unfolding according to the worst scenario. Pokrovsk is collapsing too fast; we didn't expect this. There are some of those bastards in northern Myrnohrad, small groups infiltrating from the south, but overall it's still better than in Pokrovsk.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/10/24/8004333/
 

rsemmes

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SIGNIFICANT WORK AHEAD ON FINANCING, SWEDISH PM SAYS
The financing of the procurement could come via frozen Russian assets held in Western countries and from allied nations in the coalition of the willing, but there was still significant work to be done before a final deal is signed, Kristersson said.
Probably, delusional-Zelenski should be taking care of the present of Ukraine, not of that (10-15 years) distant future.
I have to wonder when is he going to get all those fighters (150?) and pilots, how Ukraine is going to pay for them and in what war Zelenski is planning to use them, besides the 3 or 4, or 12 he may get now. But I am sure they will change the war, just as much as the F-16 did.
 

crest

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SIGNIFICANT WORK AHEAD ON FINANCING, SWEDISH PM SAYS
The financing of the procurement could come via frozen Russian assets held in Western countries and from allied nations in the coalition of the willing, but there was still significant work to be done before a final deal is signed, Kristersson said.
Probably, delusional-Zelenski should be taking care of the present of Ukraine, not of that (10-15 years) distant future.
I have to wonder when is he going to get all those fighters (150?) and pilots, how Ukraine is going to pay for them and in what war Zelenski is planning to use them, besides the 3 or 4, or 12 he may get now. But I am sure they will change the war, just as much as the F-16 did.
On the issue of financing there is this from Denmark seizing the immobilized assets not just the frozen ones
worth noting he also said if the decision to seize those assets or indeed the sovereign assets isn't unanimously taken he will fight against it.


A short good breakdown of this starts at 23:30 ish. Anyways it's unlikely imop to happen as well this new round of asset seizure would pose its own set of problems for the Western financial system in general. What's being discussed if your not refering to the 300bln is rather unprecedented (what's being proposed didn't even happen in ww11 for example)

I agree at least in military asset priorities. In general what Ukraine is in 10 or 15years down the road should definitely be on his mind. If it was more on his mind earlier this war might be over by now. Or never started honestly

Yeah support may be there for training,parts and pay if they were there now but in ten years? Or even the day after whatever deal is signed that could look very different
 
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But I am sure they will change the war, just as much as the F-16 did.
I don’t know if you care, but phrasing like this tends to read as sarcastic or dismissive rather than analytical. That can make it sound more like venting or propaganda than commentary. I’m not criticising your actual point, just the tone, in case you want it to come across more sharply and factually.
 
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rsemmes

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I don’t know if you care, but phrasing like this tends to read as sarcastic or dismissive rather than analytical. That can make it sound more like venting or propaganda than commentary. I’m not criticising your actual point, just the tone, in case you want it to come across more sharply and factually.
Zelenski spent quite some time telling NATO to fight this war for him. My analysis is that he is delusional. I posted some article about him, his destiny and hubris.
Western media is selling a fairy tale version of this war, that is my analysis. I posted some article about that too, like when a metro station is hit and we forget to mention that in front of that station there is a missile factory.
About being sarcastic... Being sarcastic about a fairy tale? Yes, I tend to agree. It could be that my style (tone?) is more sarcastic than academic; I am not a professor, after all.
 

rsemmes

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I read that in (paywall) The Times...
"Tusk stated that Ukraine has the right to attack Russian-linked targets anywhere in Europe"
So, Tusk is saying that Russia has the right (legal right?) to carry out terrorist attacks in Europe, right?

Well, he also mentioned that the European Convention on Human Rights is a bit "inconvenient" for some other issue...
 

crest

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Is this guy actually any good? The thumbnail and title doesn’t really scream “level-headed analysis.”, so not sure if I should invest time in watching this. But maybe I shouldn’t judge a book by its cover.
Yeah I find him well balance. the thumbnail is a bit click bait but the context is the supply lines in pakrovst and area. This is a attritional war and the area is by and large in a operational encirclement at least a far as vehicles are concerned. Beyonce critical is a overstatement but one could call it critical and not be accused of hyperbole
 
Zelenski spent quite some time telling NATO to fight this war for him. My analysis is that he is delusional. I posted some article about him, his destiny and hubris.
Western media is selling a fairy tale version of this war, that is my analysis. I posted some article about that too, like when a metro station is hit and we forget to mention that in front of that station there is a missile factory.
About being sarcastic... Being sarcastic about a fairy tale? Yes, I tend to agree. It could be that my style (tone?) is more sarcastic than academic; I am not a professor, after all.
Fair enough. Personally I find the tone makes your arguments a lot less convincing and harder to follow, which is a pity since there seems to be substance in what you’re saying underneath it. But if that’s just your style, fair enough, I’m probably not the target audience for it anyway.
 

Feanor

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These appear to be covered from the elements enabling easier reactivation perhaps Russia should of invested in this
Russia had some covered storage but the shortage of funds coupled with the massive post-Soviet downsizing made for a bad storage situation. Some piles of military equipment weren't even properly decommissioned before storage. There are still photos from just piles of rusting and rotting equipment somewhere in the middle of nowhere in Russia coming out in the 2020s.

That's very funny.
There have been several situations where reporting has leaked information that led to strikes. It's currently possible to geolocate things from footage using digital tools that before wouldn't have been even close to doable.
 

seaspear

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Russia had some covered storage but the shortage of funds coupled with the massive post-Soviet downsizing made for a bad storage situation. Some piles of military equipment weren't even properly decommissioned before storage. There are still photos from just piles of rusting and rotting equipment somewhere in the middle of nowhere in Russia coming out in the 2020s.



There have been several situations where reporting has leaked information that led to strikes. It's currently possible to geolocate things from footage using digital tools that before wouldn't have been even close to doable.
Was it a shortage of funds or lack of planning and possible corruption?
 
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