Russian Air Force News & Discussion

Feanor

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Update.

Sukhoi's Su-75 project is proceeding despite the sanctions and changes. In principle Russia could get good value out of a relatively cheap single-engine fighter, and a combination of Su-57 and Su-75 to replace the massive mess of MiG-29, MiG-35, MiG-31, Su-27, Su-30M2/SM, Su-34, Su-35S with just two jets is a good idea in principle. However the very limited use the Su-57 has seen in recent conflicts, both Syria and Ukraine, raises questions about the readiness of the type for combat. Continued production of both the Su-35S and Su-34M side by side with the Su-57 also raises questions.


A rare Russian M-55 Geophysics high altitude aircraft was spotted carrying a recon pod. Allegedly this is part of a program to turn the type into a high-altitude recon aircraft, a sort of modern day U-2. However it seems like an ersatz for things like the Tu-214R and A-50U/A-100. And these pods were initially designed for the Su-34 where they properly belong. If completed this program will undoubtedly add to Russian capabilities, but it's suboptimal at best.


Russian 40N6 long range S-400 missiles have been confirmed in both combat use and front-line deployment. The missile, despite being lauded for a decade and a half, only now makes a meaningful appearance. It's a relevant and significant gain in capability and it likely represents the current war pushing Russia to get as many things to combat effectiveness as possible.


Russia is reportedly starting MiG-31K patrols over the Black Sea with the missiles gaining the ability to be reprogrammed in flight. Prior to this the type had to be programmed on the ground, and then launched. On the one hand this means you can use them against moving targets. On the other hand, what moving targets? Leaving aside the AShM role, it doesn't seem like there's much that moves worth expending an expensive and scarce hypersonic missile for. The AShM role is of course not irrelevant, especially against someone like the US.


There is information that Russia is planning to mount an under-fuselage radar on the Ka-52Ms. This is an interesting contrast to the Apache and to the Russian Mi-28NM which have it mounted above the rotor. The Ka-52 did many things differently from the Mi-28 family and I suspect this is more adaptations aimed at incorporating local knowledge and experience rather then following general trends.


Russia has taken delivery of another batch of Su-35S. Conspicuously absent are news of Su-35S deliveries to Iran which raises questions about production bottlenecks. Nonetheless production of the type is continuing for 20+ months after the war started.


Russia has taken delivery of the 3rd Il-76MD-90A this year.


Russia has also taken delivery of another batch of Su-34M. The type is significant more relevant with the advent of gliding bombs, though there are some questions about it's radar and EO systems.

 

Ananda

The Bunker Group

Rosoboron video on their latest variant of IL-76. They call it IL-76MD-90AE. New Engines, new undercarriage, new cockpits and electronics. Rosoborn claim capabilities to transport 60ton for 4000+km.

Seems they are quite sure they have solve production supply chain problems. Thus ready to enter again export market. I do suspect asside for Domestic, they want to regain Indian market on heavy transport.
 

swerve

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It still has a narrow, low ceiling, cargo box, which limits what it can carry compared to C-2 or A400M (or An-70 if it was being built), let alone C-17.
 

Feanor

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It still has a narrow, low ceiling, cargo box, which limits what it can carry compared to C-2 or A400M (or An-70 if it was being built), let alone C-17.
It's a case of using what you have rather then what you want. Russia inherited fleets of Il-76 and An-124s that are larger then what Russia realistically needs so development of future heavy transports has been mostly dead for a while. When it was resurrected they managed to get an upgraded Il-76 as their flagship product so it's what they can offer. It's not the worst heavy cargo plane but it has limitations. And it works ok as a air-tanker and a AEW platform, so it will likely see continued production at least for domestic use for years to come. No doubt somebody on the export market will buy it eventually, quite possibly someone without many options, and possibly through a complex payment scheme. Imagine a Venezuela that successfully takes over that disputed part of Guiana and now has oil fields but not the means to develop them, needs a handful of heavy transport planes but doesn't have the cash to purchase them and also has sanctions against it. Suddenly new upgraded Il-76s start to look good especially when you can pay for them by giving a Russian oil company some concessions to develop certain fields. Just a hypothetical and probably not the likeliest one, but between Iran, Syria, and other such client states, there are certain possibilities.
 

Feanor

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Update.

Overall as the second year of war draws to a close the VVS have made a major contribution on the battlefield. Unlike the first year when they were losing many jets, and launching quite ineffective strikes, they have now substantially expanded their PGM arsenal with gliding bombs and the Kh-38 family of guided missiles. From the helo standpoint, unlike the rare and expensive LMUR, the Vikhr allowed Russian helos to start playing a more traditional role on the battlefield. A substantial portion of Ukrainian vehicles in the south were destroyed by these helos. However new challenges definitely loom ahead as the number of modern SAMs used by Ukraine increases and they are being used more aggressively near the front. The impending arrival of F-16s also remains a significant challenge.

Russia has received their 5th Il-76MD-90A this year. Reportedly one more aircraft is about to be handed over. It seems 6 per year is the realistic current production volume. Given expanded Russian plans to stand up more transport air regiments, their production will certainly continue beyond the current contract.


Russia has reportedly taken delivery of batches of Su-30SM2 fighters and Yak-130 trainers. These are the second batch of each delivered this year. Reportedly the Su-30SM2 features upgrades to it's radio-electronics, but what this means is unclear. It's likely the SM2s are meant for the AVMF. They've also taken delivery of the 5th batch of Su-35S and 3rd batch of Su-34s this year. Quantities are unclear for all.


A new Su-57 was spotted at GLITs. Production of the type continues but it's less public then ever before.


It appears Russia is about to field their first rotary attack UAV, the Termite, carrying a payload of 3 laser-guided S-8 variants.


A couple of Russian Orion-S UAVs next to a hangar. The type is still reportedly in production but remains relatively scarce.


Russian Ka-52M flying around with an LMUR. The newest variants of the Ka-52 and Mi-28 both integrate their most successful helo-based weapons, the LMUR and Vikhr.


Reportedly Russia has completed improvements to the Pantsyr's missile defense capabilities. This comes as announcement of the deployment of Pantsyr-SM to the front arrive, so it might refer to that variant of the SAM.


The VVS have begun a large retraining program for pilots to learn how to use the new gliding bombs.


A new batch of Vikhr ATGMs was delivered.

 

Feanor

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@Feanor is there anymore development on PAK-VTA that you have found? Asside this information:


Seems this is the latest one that I can find. Seems also the progress going to be tight up on the development of PD-35 big turbofan.
It's been crickets. The current war has shifted priorities away from ambitious future projects and towards what can be used sooner rather the later. I have no doubt Russia will attempt an An-124 replacement at some point, barring something really crazy happening, but it's likely not going to be a priority for the time being.
 

Ananda

The Bunker Group


Russia seems decide to replace L-39 with cheaper trainer then their Yak-130. Base on the article, the Basic Training will be conducted by this Mig-UTS and Advance/LIFT Training use YAK-130. The Drive article speculate the Russian AF not really satisfied with YAK-130. However I tend to agree with Jane's that YAK-130 just too expensive to also be use for Basic Training regime.

MIG going to recycling some MIG-AT design (which lose to YAK-130), and make it more affordable. This is also in my opinion indication for Russian AF to increase their pilots production.
 

Sandhi Yudha

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Russia seems decide to replace L-39 with cheaper trainer then their Yak-130. Base on the article, the Basic Training will be conducted by this Mig-UTS and Advance/LIFT Training use YAK-130. The Drive article speculate the Russian AF not really satisfied with YAK-130. However I tend to agree with Jane's that YAK-130 just too expensive to also be use for Basic Training regime.

MIG going to recycling some MIG-AT design (which lose to YAK-130), and make it more affordable. This is also in my opinion indication for Russian AF to increase their pilots production.
Big chance the MiG-UTS is just a slightly updated MiG-AT, but this is of course the most efficient way to reduce the development period and to keep the costs low.
 

Feanor

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Some big new for the Russian airforce. 4 Tu-160M and M2 bombers have been handed over. 2 (M) are upgraded existing Tu-160s, and 2 (M2s) are new builds. There are now 4 newbuild M2 variants in service total. With the shrinking of the Tu-22M3 fleet, the aging of the Tu-95s, and the continued delays of the PAK-DA program, this is likely the future of Russian strategic aviation for the next two decades. The PAK-DA will likely get completed eventually, and we will see some quantities in service, but it will be a while.


The number of A-50s in storage has shrunk from 11 to 7. The source speculates that this is due to them being scrapped, but I wouldn't be surprised if at least some are disappearing because they're headed off to be converted into A-50Us.


A new Russian trainer, the UTS-800, has begun trials. It's competing with the Yak-152 program. It's currently flying with a GE engine, but transition to a domestic engine is planned. Engine problems are the bane of many Russian aviation programs at this time.


Russia is expecting to complete trials and potentially field the new smaller anti-UAV missiles for the Pantsyr this year. 4 of them fit into a standard Pantsyr missile tube, and they were initially developed in response to experience from Syria.


The S-70 large UCAV is planned to complete trials this year with serial production to begin. Theoretically this is a fairly advanced LO platform and could do much good against Ukrainian air defenses. But as always there are questions.


A Russian M-55 high altitude plan carrying to recon pods. Note from the coloration it's obvious these pods were meant for the Su-34. It's unclear why these pods aren't being used on the Su-34.


Russia's new Izd. 720 missile was spotted. It's yet another weapon meant for the internal bays of an Su-57.


The first A-100 prototype sits in hangar. The status of the program is unclear, and Russia badly needs a modern AEW.


At least 4 Su-57s were handed over right before the new year. Reportedly over 10 total were delivered. Their use in the current war remains mostly speculative. We still don't have word on the first line squadron reaching combat readiness, but given the secrecy and the war it's unclear if we will get confirmation until long after it happens.


Russia apparently received 6 newly built Il-76s last year. This program is finally making some headway.

 

Ananda

The Bunker Group

Army Recognition put article base on Russian media information, on decision to revive stored AN-124. Restoring stored aircraft itvself is not unheard of, afterall US doing countless time including restoring some C-5 which basically AN-124 counterpart.

However I don't see Russian stored facility at par with US AMARG. They don't have (on similar capabilities) as Davis-Monthan AFB for restoration facility. Also US have Arizona climate to help shield stored aircraft from elements, and I don't see Russia has right environment to provide that kind of natural shield.

For that, I do believe their stored aircraft in worse condition than those in AMARG. This particular AN-124 being talk has been stored for 25 years, practically from end of last century. Thus if they are able to do this restoration, it is in my opinion quite significant achievement.
 

Sandhi Yudha

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Army Recognition put article base on Russian media information, on decision to revive stored AN-124. Restoring stored aircraft itvself is not unheard of, afterall US doing countless time including restoring some C-5 which basically AN-124 counterpart.

However I don't see Russian stored facility at par with US AMARG. They don't have (on similar capabilities) as Davis-Monthan AFB for restoration facility. Also US have Arizona climate to help shield stored aircraft from elements, and I don't see Russia has right environment to provide that kind of natural shield.

For that, I do believe their stored aircraft in worse condition than those in AMARG. This particular AN-124 being talk has been stored for 25 years, practically from end of last century. Thus if they are able to do this restoration, it is in my opinion quite significant achievement.
To keep an aircraft in a good condition during storage, scheduled inspections and other maintenance actions are required. Even the preparation for long storage should have been done properly.
I can not believe that during the collapse of the Soviet-Union, such things happen.

Many Boeing 737MAX aeroplanes were grounded for around two years, because of the two crashes and later also because of Covid-19. During these two years the condition of these aircrafts deteriorated, even with the required maintenance.

And these An-124 were in the open field for more than 2 decades, imagine the condition of these aircrafts. Even a single ferry flight to the main maintenance facility for further repairs and overhaul requires a tremendous amount of manhours and funds. Like you said, it will be an amazing achievement if they succeed in it.

I just don't understand why this An-124 needs to become operational, as far as i know no Russian An-124 is taken out of the air during this war, and several new Il-76MD-90As each year are coming out of the factory.
 

Sandhi Yudha

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Some interesting news. Reportedly Russia is resuming production of the Citroen C5 Aircross in Kaluga. How this is possible is unclear. Perhaps it's an unlicensed copy, perhaps Russia got some sort of deal with France. The article says "Eastern partners will source the parts" suggesting that maybe Russia is going to get components through China or someone else. But that can't be impossible to shut down. In general Russian automotive production is the on mend, though a long way from peak output levels.


One of Russia's biggest problems right now is civilian airliners. Modern day Russia does produce them but there are some caveats. Russia has domestic production for the SSJ-100, the most successful post-Soviet airliners in the entire FSU space. However it was an international project all along, together with the French. Russia can produce the Tu-214 mostly without foreign components, but production is extremely slow. Same for the Il-96. Other projects are in limbo due to engine difficulties. Rostech keeps announcing Napoleonic plans of large scale production of SSJ-NEW, MS-21s, Tu-214s, and others, but the delivery timetables keeping shifting to the right. I'm reasonably certain that on a long enough timeline these issues will be overcome. In particular we are likely to see some increased Tu-214 production, though how much is open for debate. The SSJ-NEW is likely to go ahead in some form, unless the PD-8 engines turns into a major problem. Even the MS-21 is likely to proceed, just with lower characteristics then initially planned, and much later.


In the effort of ramping up Tu-214 production, Russia has developed a new machine for making tires for the type.


Russia has pulled a Tu-204 from storage and returned it to service. A total of nearly 100 Tu-204/214s were built, and quite a few aren't currently flying. Restoring them to service isn't the worst idea.


The first new built Il-114 regional airliner flew. The project hails from the '90s, an updated version of it is being prepared to restart production. A rebuilt airframe from the '90s was used for testing before now. However it's been held up by the new TV7-117 engines, the same that are holding up the Mi-38 helo, and Il-112 military transport. The engines are now allegedly good to go, but doubts remain.


Assembly of the first TVRS-44 regional airliner (smaller than the Il-114) is being assembled now. It's supposed to use a weaker version of the same engine as the Il-114.


Kolyma airlines have received two Mi-38-4s for civilian air service. These two helicopters were originally built for the Special Air Squadron Russia, which does VIP transport for Russian higher ups. It's likely the Mi-38 was deemed not ready for this highly visible role. So far 4 prototypes and 9 serial Mi-38s have been built, but production has been halted since 2021.

So the Il-112 is created to replace the An-26, and the TVRS-44 is like the Il-114 designed to replace the An-24. Why didn't they redesign the empennage from the Il-112 (for removing the cargo ramp door) or shorten the fuselage of the Il-114 and instead of that start a new design from scratch?
TVRS-44 "Ladoga" commercial aircraft. Pictures, specifications, reviews. (airlines-inform.com)

KrasAvia to test prototype TVRS-44 under provisional acquisition deal | News | Flight Global
 

Feanor

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So the Il-112 is created to replace the An-26, and the TVRS-44 is like the Il-114 designed to replace the An-24. Why didn't they redesign the empennage from the Il-112 (for removing the cargo ramp door) or shorten the fuselage of the Il-114 and instead of that start a new design from scratch?
TVRS-44 "Ladoga" commercial aircraft. Pictures, specifications, reviews. (airlines-inform.com)

KrasAvia to test prototype TVRS-44 under provisional acquisition deal | News | Flight Global
I have no idea. It might yet work out that way. At the end of the day the TVRS-44 might be a complete failure.
 

Feanor

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So the Il-112 is created to replace the An-26, and the TVRS-44 is like the Il-114 designed to replace the An-24. Why didn't they redesign the empennage from the Il-112 (for removing the cargo ramp door) or shorten the fuselage of the Il-114 and instead of that start a new design from scratch?
TVRS-44 "Ladoga" commercial aircraft. Pictures, specifications, reviews. (airlines-inform.com)

KrasAvia to test prototype TVRS-44 under provisional acquisition deal | News | Flight Global
An interesting article related to your point that suggests that current plans, as they have been announced, might be horsesh*t, at least as far as the Il-212 is concerned. It points out that the PD-8 weighs over 4 times as much as a TV7-117. It also provides well over double the power (nearly triple). So the current wings can't handle the weight, and the resulting aircraft will be faster and carry much more weight, meaning it doesn't make sense for the transport niche that the Il-112 was planned for. The article then suggests that if the Il-114 is successful, it might be the way to go.

 
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