Royal Canadian Navy Discussions and updates

[Underway]

Every post I've seen in reputable Canadian defence forums points to a foreign build, but with a robust build up of domestic maintenance capabilities. These 12 subs are referred to often as "interim", with the long-term (post 2050) goal the acquisition of nuclear boats, or possibly some other technology that allows for long-distance high-speed submerged travel. There is nothing new here. This is a capability that the RCN wants (and has wanted for 40 years), but the middle step of developing a largish professional submarine cadre and fleet was felt to be more reachable than jumping straight into nuclear. Also much more affordable.

Interim. Like Asterix is interim, and is going past year 10 now. This idea of nuclear subs is one that won't die despite the fact its been debunked multiple times. There is no long term goal for nuclear subs.

 

[John Fedup]

Interim. Like Asterix is interim, and is going past year 10 now. This idea of nuclear subs is one that won't die despite the fact its been debunked multiple times. There is no long term goal for nuclear subs.

There is no immediate SSN plan but post 2050-60 and assuming the world and Canada still exist, there will be a need unless super batteries offering high escape speeds and 4-5 weeks between recharge happen. High sped endurance underwater operations will be a consequence of mega advances in missile technology, IMHO.

 

[Underway]

There is no immediate SSN plan but post 2050-60 and assuming the world and Canada still exist, there will be a need unless super batteries offering high escape speeds and 4-5 weeks between recharge happen. High sped endurance underwater operations will be a consequence of mega advances in missile technology, IMHO.

Post 2050 and 2060 there will only be a seasonal icecap and ships will be able to sail freely across the Arctic ocean most of the time. And then the biggest argument for nuke boats is gone. As well the sensors and processing for underwater contacts will likely be so advanced that submarines might not even have the advantage of stealth anymore, thus not needing submarines at all. (of course neither of us know if any of this makes any sense, as the timelines involved are 25 years away and we're just playing at being a futurist).

 

[John Fedup]

Post 2050 and 2060 there will only be a seasonal icecap and ships will be able to sail freely across the Arctic ocean most of the time. And then the biggest argument for nuke boats is gone. As well the sensors and processing for underwater contacts will likely be so advanced that submarines might not even have the advantage of stealth anymore, thus not needing submarines at all. (of course neither of us know if any of this makes any sense, as the timelines involved are 25 years away and we're just playing at being a futurist).

Agree about the timeline and possible under water sensor advances but missile advances will be even more significant. There is still advantageous to have a sub with high speed and endurance underwater regardless of the disappearing icecap… just my two cents though.